Published Jan 5, 2008
iwilldothis
23 Posts
Does anyone think this should be illegal? This was not in our student handbook nor did it state the 900 and above we must recieve in order to graduate. The school also states we fail the last course we took regardless of the actual grade we earned. THIS STAYS ON OUR TRANSCRIPT THAT WE FAILED A NRSG CLASS! WHEN THIS IS NOT THE CASE. They also are charging us a semesters worth of tuition for taking the hesi exam after unsuccessful tries of not passing with a 900 or above. This is not a separate class. Where is this money going? If we don't have to actually repeat the course, yet have to pay. I was done with school in October, but not able to sit for boards yet nor recieve my BSN in which I successfully completed all requirements for each course clinically and classroom.How can this be stopped? This is for the NCLEX to decide not a study guide for the NCLEX. Why should this determine my future of whether I become a prudent, successful, caring nurse that I know I would be?
Bonny619
528 Posts
I feel you. They told us we had to pass with an 850 and that graduation depended on it. We had 3 tries, after the 2nd try they told everyone they weren't going to make it mandatory for graduation.
I personally feel if you weren't told up front about this then it shouldn't be applied.
bsweetlee37
5 Posts
The school that I attended also requested that you make a 900 or above on the Hesi and this wasn't added until our last level of clinicals, we were given 3 opportunities to past and unfortunately my score only proceded downward, I don't feel like I didn't pass because I didn't know the content I just felt so much pressure that I buckled. Fortunately they are giving one more opportunity to those of us whom actually passed the class and received an incomplete, I have about 2 weeks to study- does anyone out there have any suggestions that will help me be more successful this time and also any suggestions on how to reduce anxiety.
I think that is what happened to our class, the anxiety of not graduating and literally JUST finding that out scared the hell out of us. The first time I got an 847, the second time I scored a 944.
The only thing I did was study my saunders NCLEX review book. I browsed thru the HESI book but I didn't much like that one.
I thought I did worse on my second try but that wasn't the case.
I say study your peds if you aren't familiar with it...we had lots of that.
I feel you. They told us we had to pass with an 850 and that graduation depended on it. We had 3 tries, after the 2nd try they told everyone they weren't going to make it mandatory for graduation. I personally feel if you weren't told up front about this then it shouldn't be applied.
I have contacted a lawyer because I have two more tries and I am confident that I will pass this next try, but this still affects other students behind me. I am not one to pass and say ok I'm done and now I don't have to worry about this issue. It is an issue and it is wrong. And I will persue this. Thanks for sticking up for your other fellow nursing students.
Exactly! We are all capable or we would't have made it this far! We have to stick up for what is fair for us students and others who enter nursing programs that do not fully understand thier schools policies until after they have spent money, tears, and sweat to get through. you will get through this as well as I. Believe in yourself! And don't let the school make you feel not capable because they want to protect thier accreditation. The hesi is soppost to be a review course not a use of punishment.
vanurse08
42 Posts
My school requires a 900 for those graduating in May 2008. The kicker is last year (May 2007) the passing score was an 850 and of the 78 student who took it, only 17 passed. I know of people who took the HESI two years ago who still haven't passed. I want to know what was going through these peoples heads when the decided to raise that passing score after those dismal results.
When I started my program (Fall 2007), the required passing score was 850. I don't think they should be able to change that for my class. I think the new passing score should only be applied to the newer class, not that it should in applied at all.
My school requires a 900 for those graduating in May 2008. The kicker is last year (May 2007) the passing score was an 850 and of the 78 student who took it, only 17 passed. I know of people who took the HESI two years ago who still haven't passed. I want to know what was going through these peoples heads when the decided to raise that passing score after those dismal results. When I started my program (Fall 2007), the required passing score was 850. I don't think they should be able to change that for my class. I think the new passing score should only be applied to the newer class, not that it should in applied at all.
Let me just tell you. My school incooperated a capstone course for the class underneath me. This way they can protect thier butts for people who complain or file suit. And they can say this is a course incooperated into our program. yes. I think it is still wrong because these people came into the nursing program unaware of this change and how can they do this if it wasn't in the original policy. The Hesi is not a course for my graduation class, in which we are the last class that doesn't have the capstone incooperated into their program. The schools just think they can do whatever they want. And they are raising our levels to 950 from what I hear from the undergrads. maybe this way they can get more people to fail and collect more money. the way I see it is we aren't failing a review course because we don't make a certain score.
Not to mention our state board of nursing has NOTHING to do with the HESI!
I think my school does it 1) For the money 2) to protect their NCLEX pass rate which is 100%.
But when you figure only 17 students were even allowed to take the NCLEX the pass rate means nothing. But for someone looking in from the outside it looks great.
How long will it take and how many people have to fail before someone...anyone realizes that is HESI exam is just wrong.
I had an instructor tell me that the HESI test in way harder than the NCLEX. Well if the NCLEX is all we need to become RNs, what it the point of the HESI....really. Why can't they see this.
I think my school does it 1) For the money 2) to protect their NCLEX pass rate which is 100%.But when you figure only 17 students were even allowed to take the NCLEX the pass rate means nothing. But for someone looking in from the outside it looks great. How long will it take and how many people have to fail before someone...anyone realizes that is HESI exam is just wrong.I had an instructor tell me that the HESI test in way harder than the NCLEX. Well if the NCLEX is all we need to become RNs, what it the point of the HESI....really. Why can't they see this.
Oh they can see this. They know exactly what they are doing. I am angry if you can't tell. But Nursing schools were getting close to boderline accreditation, which makes them very scared of losing thier instiuition or even further THEIR paychecks. So a group of nursing educators-nurses came up with a review course ie HESI to sale to schools. This is suppost to be a remediation that tells the teachers where they are lacking as well as students weaknesses. With this it may seem like a great idea because a school SHOULD do all they can for THEIR students to help them be successful at their boards. Well, somehow the idea went bad and schools figured out a way to use this HESI as a moneymaker. And to prevent students who may fail NCLEX from taking their test. Although this HEsi hasnt been proven to do either. If you have taken hesi review you may pass NCLEX, but if you havent taken HESI does this mean you wont pass? Believe me there are thousands of nrsg students everyday passing boards without taking the HESI and making a certain score that our schools have come up with. RIDICULOUS!
Oh I know they know what their doing...which makes it so infuriating. To be trapped in a school who really doesn't care what happens to the students make me feel so hopeless. At my school we really don't have a voice. They have a monthly meeting ironically called "Voices Day" but when we voice are concerns they are ALWAYS answered with an "Because I said So" answer. Unbelievable. GOD I wished I new all this before I entered this program. My this is the ONLY school in the area that uses this test.