Published May 18, 2008
ranglervol
7 Posts
Hello,
i am a first year nursing student and i have an assignment on a case study of a lady with asthma. i am asked to concentrate on her respiratory problems relating to impaired gas exchange.
i am having real dificultly understand this, and actually writing answers to the question. help would be much appreciated.
questions are:
-explain why impaired gas exchange occurs in asthma ie: identify the pathophysiological processes that occur in asthma and explain how these processes impair gas exchange.
- why the signs and symptoms occur when gas exchange is impaired
- identify priorities ie: explain whats goals of nursing care should be met first and why
i have been searching for so long for information, just not sure whats exactly relevant.
my main problem is apply the information to answers.
thanks
PICURN74, ASN, RN
61 Posts
There are two main components to Asthma (hint watch advair commerical) which is the heart of the first questions. The second question is basically asking what an asthmatic patient presents like, what signs or symptoms of an asthma attack would you see. And finally what would you do for an asthmatic, what are your priorities (remember your ABCs). Hope this gives you a little help
PageRespiratory!
237 Posts
Here's a question,
Why don't students want to do their own homework anymore?
I'm being sarcastic, not nasty!
Really though, I googled your questions and answered them in about 10 minutes.
XB9S, BSN, MSN, EdD, RN, APN
1 Article; 3,017 Posts
thread moved to nursing student assistance forum,
it may be useful if you give an idea of what information you have and how you feel it answers the question that way the members here can point you in the right direction.
Daytonite, BSN, RN
1 Article; 14,604 Posts
i have always told students that nursing has given us one of the greatest tools to help us with our work, but i guess some instructors don't make it clear. i'm talking about the nursing process. the nursing process is a souped up label that was put on the scientific problem solving method after nurses tweaked it a bit and took ownership of it. when the steps of the nursing process are applied to all kinds of nursing dilemmas, care plans and case scenarios included, it is a huge help. the trick is to follow the steps of the process in the sequence that they occur to get the most out of it. these are the steps and what goes on in each of them for care planning a case scenario situations:
scientific problem solving is not a foreign concept to any of us.
we have been doing a form of it for much of our lives. let me give you a real world situation a show you how it also ties in with nursing:
you can't even begin to determine what a patient's nursing problems are until you've done a thorough assessment. that, for us nurses, includes
with hypothetical patients you have to tweak that list a bit since you can't do an actual physical exam (but you can put together a text book list of abnormal findings you would expect to see for the medical diagnoses you have been given), you can't do an actual assessment of the patient's ability to perform their adls (but you can extrapolate that information from what you find out about the medical disease symptoms), and there is no medical chart to gather information from. however, one of the major expectations of doing case studies is that students learn about the pathophysiology, signs/symptoms, usual tests ordered, and medical treatment for the medical disease or condition that the patient has. this information is critical (as in critical thinking) in the care planning process, particularly in the determination of nursing diagnoses and their etiological factors. the first two questions from your case study are based in the pathophysiology of asthma. they will also give you the related factor (etiology or cause) for the "r/t" part of the diagnostic statement as well as give you an understanding of how the manifestations of the disease (symptoms) can be directly traced to the pathophysiological happenings. once you learn what the cause and symptoms of asthma are you can then identify priorities and goals of nursing care. your goals will be to improve, stabilize or support the deterioration of each nursing problem you are addressing. nursing care (interventions) of each nursing problem is based upon treating those symptoms. all of this stuff is very rationally interrelated in care planning and fits together like a key fits into a lock.
explain why impaired gas exchange occurs in asthma ie: identify the pathophysiological processes that occur in asthma and explain how these processes impair gas exchange.
why the signs and symptoms occur when gas exchange is impaired
identify priorities ie: explain what goals of nursing care should be met first and why
[*]perform treatments as ordered
[*]administer oxygen - maximize % of oxygen perfused during alveolar gas exchange
[*]b - breathing
why all this information becomes important. . .it helps you understand and define the nursing problem. the definition of impaired gas exchange is excess or deficit in oxygenation and/or carbon dioxide elimination at the alveolar-capillary membrane (page 94, nanda-i nursing diagnoses: definitions & classification 2007-2008). the specific problem with asthma is that oxygen and carbon dioxide are not being exchanged across the alveoli membranes because of (1) oxygenated air being blocked from getting to the alveoli because of bronchospasms, and (2) the build up of excess mucus in the alveoli. what is causing the problem in impaired gas exchange, the nursing diagnosis, is that gas exchange between oxygen and carbon dioxide is not being able to occur as it is supposed to in the alveoli. so for asthma, using that particular nursing diagnosis is a marriage made in heaven. of course, there are other nursing diagnoses that apply here as well, but you are focusing on this one.
hope i explained that clearly enough and that helps you out. keep this information because it is also relevant for pneumonia and you will have lots of patients with pneumonia! this stuff is not always easy to understand at the first or second reading. you need to get a pathophysiology book to help you with these kinds of assignments. you need to know the pathophysiology of all medical diseases anyway, so it would be a good investment to make.
Also check out this previous thread:
im am just starting out at my degree so all of this is very confusing and hard to understand. i can google and answer my questions in about 10 minutes too, however i will not understand it. i am simply asking questions so i can gain better knowlegde as i dont understand
also just wanted to say thankyou very much too everyone who has helped me. makes it a lot easier when you put it in way to understand.
EDS513Tn
3 Posts
I myself am a first year nursing student who does not ask to be given the answers, but have the answers clarified in a way that I ( a student that has not ever been in contact with such in depth information to cover in such a short amount of time- but who does study so much that I dream of this stuff when I do try to sleep) can understand. I guess some people forgot how it was when they were just beginning and did not understand. I guess some people do not have to work to pay their own bills plus pay for their own school & understand why someone like us that do may need just a little extra Clarification on what certain situations are. I am doing Asthma and came upon this. Sure I can google anything, but it sure would be nice to have someone who has been in our place, that has experience to give us their insight on what in "the real world" works best. Or, we could just go by the text book. I think learning from nurses who have been there done that plus researching the most up to date evidence-based research will make us a better nurse, than just learning text book answers. Im not being nasty. Just honest. Ranglervol, I hope you did well and that you found help from good hearted, understanding people, as I hope I will too.
nurseprnRN, BSN, RN
1 Article; 5,116 Posts
stand down, dear. :heartbeat i think what was communicated here in this very old thread was that the op said she had a lot of data but didn't know how to put it together, or couldn't think it out as to how it went together... but she didn't tell us what she knew. this gave the impression that she was fishing around for someone to do it for her, even if it wasn't her original intent (and it very well may not have been). daytonite has died, but her helpful and comprehensive posts live on to help students and others think about how to think like a nurse.
so what we usually suggest is that the student communicates what s/he knows already, and then tells us what his/her problem is with it, and then we can not only give more data but often a framework for thinking about and solving future related problems.
so... what do you know already, and what can we help you with?
Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN
20,908 Posts
I myself am a first year nursing student who does not ask to be given the answers, but have the answers clarified in a way that I ( a student that has not ever been in contact with such in depth information to cover in such a short amount of time- but who does study so much that I dream of this stuff when I do try to sleep) can understand. I guess some people forgot how it was when they were just beginning and did not understand. I guess some people do not have to work to pay their own bills plus pay for their own school & understand why someone like us that do may need just a little extra Clarification on what certain situations are. I am doing Asthma and came upon this. Sure I can google anything, but it sure would be nice to have someone who has been in our place, that has experience to give us their insight on what in "the real world" works best. Or, we could just go by the text book. I think learning from nurses who have been there done that plus researching the most up to date evidence-based research will make us a better nurse, than just learning text book answers. I'm not being nasty. Just honest. Wrangler Vol, I hope you did well and that you found help from good hearted, understanding people, as I hope I will too.
Easy tiger......we help students all the time and I know I will try to lead them to the answer and not give the answer. I Want tot know what they have done for himself first and then give tools for them to be able to answer their questions for themselves in the future.......but this is an old thread and the OP has probably graduated school but I am sure appreciated your support...
I understand your point. Everything I have learned about care plans, I have pretty much had to research myself. I have had students from previous years nice enough to let me see theirs as an example.
We do get a template however. Our template is 11 pages long to fill out with patient information, thats including 4 care plan pages- on each-(one Nursing DX per those 4 pages), and 5 interventions for each page, with rationales beside each, and source.
Then (not included in that 11 pages) we have to do 15 drug cards per week. This is on top of Pharmacology class (which the drug cards I know would help-if we had time to stop and study them), and Medsurg, where we also have to do mynursinglab pretests, post tests, remediation (2 chapters due a week) Plus we do two case studies off evolve a week. If we do not have a test in class that week, we have an online quiz. And somehow, we are supposed to read the information in the chapters as well to learn the info.
I am coping, It is just extremely hard to breathe or sleep when you have 23 hours a day of work to do (I do read and study and try to take in what I am reading before I proceed on) I do not go out or have kids, so I feel for those that have kids. I am just saying I want to be a great nurse, not a half way good nurse, so I feel like any help when I am lost is awesome, and I will help when I can.
In my Medsurg book, there are two pages over Asthma. Only two diagnoses, one being 'Pain" that we are not allowed to use. We cannot use any 'risks fors' or knowledge deficit.
I now, am down to my last two care plan sheets for Activity Intolerance R/T Allergans and Ineffective Coping R/T use of alcohol to cope with Resp. Dz. (Red wine is a trigger, so I made up my patient drinking 1-2 glasses a day)-We do not get a real patient this semester to make a care plan. We are provided with information, and we make up the rest. Sounds great, well not so easy.
My number 1 is Ineffective Airway Clearance R/T Tracheobronchial Narrowing, and number 2 is Impaired Ventilation. I took my respiratory test already this week, my knowledge deficits are in Hypotonic Dehydration and Isotonic Dehydration.
No matter what I look up I do not get clarification for the questions asked on the test that I know I missed. I know my ABCs, but I thought Decreased Cardiac Output would be priority over "RISK for Impaired Ventilation." for a patient with Fluid Volume Excess. I was wrong. Still confused on that.
We are going into cardio this week and I am freaking out. I already watched two youtube videoes, but when I am done with this care plan of a million pages, I will get to start reading my chapters.