HELP! Is it possible for RNS with BSN degrees to attend Medical School to be Doctors?

apnea · Aug 3, 2007

Then there's "House." I love this show for the way it exposes the medical thought process--imperfect, creative, maddening, inspired, disciplined, messy and sometimes downright nonsensical, but always pushing to find what fits and what doesn't. The entire concept of the differential diagnosis (as opposed to the deferential diagnosis of the agog and passive patient) is an exercise in right-brain/left-brain synergy. What a fascinating dance.

Ohh god...that show. Part of me hates it because it's ALWAYS a zebra...but you're right. The cerebral side of medicine is what does it for me. Also, did you know he's English?? Has this crazy British accent that he has to hide for the show. That's a damn fine actor IMO.

rn/writer, RN · Aug 3, 2007

Always A Zebra--what a great alternative title!

I didn't know Hugh Laurie was British till I saw him on a talk show. By then I'd already been hooked beyond hope. I just read a magazine article in which he said that doing an American accent is extremely taxing. But he does it so convincingly that the person casting the show assumed he was from the States. The only fly in the ointment is the word "figure." He consistently uses the Brit pronunciation "figger." Other than that, he's pretty much spot on.

After seeing him in "House," I felt compelled to track down his other works. His Bertie Wooster ("Jeeves and Wooster") is the anti-House. Amazing to watch him sing and play the piano. He's certainly multi-talented.

One thing that gave me a bit of a thrill during the first "House" season was that several episodes appeared to be based quite closely on medical detective stories by Berton Roueche. These were old stories--the books were from the the '50s and '60s, so I'm guessing the writers thought they were obscure enough not to be recognized. I remembered finding these dusty volumes on library shelves and sought them out again (I'd even bought a few second-hand) to compare notes.

I love this kind of stuff. One of my favorite works is, "The Day of St. Anthony's Fire) by John Fuller.

Medical mysteries are like a sport to me. Hence my absolute addiction to House.

apnea · Aug 3, 2007

Always A Zebra--what a great alternative title!
I didn't know Hugh Laurie was British till I saw him on a talk show. By then I'd already been hooked beyond hope. I just read a magazine article in which he said that doing an American accent is extremely taxing. But he does it so convincingly that the person casting the show assumed he was from the States. The only fly in the ointment is the word "figure." He consistently uses the Brit pronunciation "figger." Other than that, he's pretty much spot on.
After seeing him in "House," I felt compelled to track down his other works. His Bertie Wooster ("Jeeves and Wooster") is the anti-House. Amazing to watch him sing and play the piano. He's certainly multi-talented.
One thing that gave me a bit of a thrill during the first "House" season was that several episodes appeared to be based quite closely on medical detective stories by Berton Roueche. These were old stories--the books were from the the '50s and '60s, so I'm guessing the writers thought they were obscure enough not to be recognized. I remembered finding these dusty volumes on library shelves and sought them out again (I'd even bought a few second-hand) to compare notes.
I love this kind of stuff. One of my favorite works is, "The Day of St. Anthony's Fire) by John Fuller.
Medical mysteries are like a sport to me. Hence my absolute addiction to House.

Hah! You know Berton Roueche!! You're my new best friend (sorry about that, i'll try to make it as painless as possible :chuckle)

House plays the piano?? He has a soul?? i must see.

rn/writer, RN · Aug 3, 2007

Hah! You know Berton Roueche!! You're my new best friend (sorry about that, i'll try to make it as painless as possible :chuckle)
House plays the piano?? He has a soul?? i must see.

Too funny. What would good ol' Berton think if he found out he had groupies. I'm assuming he departed this mortal coil some time ago. Would it be too macabre to hope that he succumbed to something exotic? Saltpeter in the oatmeal? Jimson weed intoxicaton? Anthrax?

The "Jeeves and Wooster" series might be available from your library. I believe there were five seasons (of four-six episodes each). Well worth the effort of tracking down. Steven Fry (Jeeves) is a hoot as well.

I suppose we should adjourn to PMs for further correspondence as we have more or less hijacked this thread. Or we could even start another thread--Medical mystery addicts roll call.

Very pleased to have made your acquaintance.

ECMOismygame · Aug 4, 2007

working is not advisable. a friend of mine did it and failed one class. this during her jr year while doing rotations at night, class during the day and sleep in the afternoon. take out more loans, but give it all you got. dont worry 200K in debt is nuthing when your making 100K at LEAST starting off and if youre into a specialty that 200K in debt could be paid off in 5 year. its an investment and it shouldnt be a burden. also check out DO schools as they prefer applicants with experience and i KNOW RN would be right up there with PT, RT, paramedic, etc.
Also not true. You'll be lucky to pull $45k through residency (MAYBE $50k by the time you graduate, this data is from 2006). Most residents i know barely scrape by every month, and a few of them are being forced to destroy their credit by deferring their loans past their "grace period." It's not a pretty thing, but again, it's doable in that people do it every day. But you won't live well until after residency, in most cases you barely stay afloat. But consider that the average 2006 salary for a general surgeon one year out of residency was closely approaching $500k, you'll probably survive the 5-6 years if you're smart about it.
i hope that helped.

of course;), i think most here knew i was talking about POST residency.

apnea · Aug 4, 2007

of course;), i think most here knew i was talking about POST residency.

Yeah...MOST people (sadly enough) don't know this The general consensus is basically that med schools pop out 6 figure salary junkies every year :rolleyes:

beth66335, BSN, RN · Aug 6, 2007

I have to say something about "House". I found out this Summer that his character is based on Sherlock Holmes ( Holmes= House! :idea: ) and Mr. Holmes was also crotchety, and a drug addict, and very egotistical ( but then he was right a lot of the time!) Very intriguing, I love that show!

rn/writer, RN · Aug 6, 2007

I have to say something about "House". I found out this Summer that his character is based on Sherlock Holmes ( Holmes= House!) and Mr. Holmes was also crotchety, and a drug addict, and very egotistical ( but then he was right a lot of the time!) Very intriguing, I love that show!

Makes perfect sense. Both characters possess savant characteristics, including the imbalance that renders them brilliant in their chosen discipline and nearly non-functional in human relationships.

Hmmm. I suppose this observation would turn Wilson into Watson.

How did you stumble upon this nugget?

beth66335, BSN, RN · Aug 6, 2007

I had a Speech teacher, this Summer, that has been a T.V. actor during his lifetime. He knows all kinds of T.V. trivia. He is a brilliant man and a very fun teacher! I believe Wilson probably is Watson! Elementary my dear RN! :lol2:

Makes perfect sense. Both characters possess savant characteristics, including the imbalance that renders them brilliant in their chosen discipline and nearly non-functional in human relationships.
Hmmm. I suppose this observation would turn Wilson into Watson.
How did you stumble upon this nugget?

rn/writer, RN · Aug 6, 2007

I had a Speech teacher, this Summer, that has been a T.V. actor during his lifetime. He knows all kinds of T.V. trivia. He is a brilliant man and a very fun teacher! I believe Wilson probably is Watson! Elementary my dear RN!

Now the wheels are turning. The parallels definitely exist. Even so, I don't necessarily see a connection between their nemeses. Cuddy seems far more cuddly than Moriarty.

They do both have musical ability, though. Holmes on violin, House on piano (that's really Hugh Laurie playing). And, as you already mentioned, the cocaine/vicodin similarity.

Can you think of other connections?

You are indeed blessed to have such an interesting instructor.

beth66335, BSN, RN · Aug 6, 2007

I think maybe they have chosen sexual tension rather than villianry or competition between House and both female characters on the show(although one may be leaving?) As far as my teacher, I was blessed. I have a real fear of speaking in front of groups:o, but he always made me feel like I was doing so well. He made me relax and I got an A+ in the class! :lol2: Because of him I was able to meet my goal of starting NS with a 3.0!:balloons:

Now the wheels are turning. The parallels definitely exist. Even so, I don't necessarily see a connection between their nemeses. Cuddy seems far more cuddly than Moriarty.
They do both have musical ability, though. Holmes on violin, House on piano (that's really Hugh Laurie playing). And, as you already mentioned, the cocaine/vicodin similarity.
Can you think of other connections?
You are indeed blessed to have such an interesting instructor.

christvs, DNP, RN, NP · Aug 7, 2007

Makes perfect sense. Both characters possess savant characteristics, including the imbalance that renders them brilliant in their chosen discipline and nearly non-functional in human relationships.
Hmmm. I suppose this observation would turn Wilson into Watson.
How did you stumble upon this nugget?

I actually read this (that House is based on Holmes) in Parade magazine in the sunday newspaper two days ago. How funny, huh? :)