HELP!! I am stuck in a situation! - need advice from experienced nurses

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I am writing for some advice from people with experience. I am a new grad and I have been working in a LTC for the last 3 months. The facility is sponsoring my green card and they made me promiss to work for them for 2 years, although they haven't made me sign any agreement yet.

The problem is that the management is so horrible that I am dying to leave the place, but I can't until my green card is approved.

For example, I didn't get the basic fire safety in-service the first 2 months. The first week the DON and the assistant DON told me to spy on all the floors and tell them what I found the nurses do wrong. When I came back with a list of things that were wrong, after a while they didn't want to hear it any more and labeled me as a complainer. Then the nurses on the floors where things are done wrong, they don't want to work with me because I want to do things the right way, and it makes them look bad.

A nursing supervisor complaind about me to DON that I was annoying because I requested a drug book (which every unit is supposed to have) a couple of times.

We have to punch in and out every day and the time clock is unfair and inconsistant. I always get paid anywhere from 15minutes to 1 hour less than I am supposed to. Lunches are not paid, and over time is not paid.

The DON told me not to take BP on cardiac meds because "it takes too long and you won't finish all the meds if you do BPs." She says "you sort of have an idea of your residents' ranges" although the MD order read that BP ranges had to be 60-100 and that MD had to be notified if it wasn't within the range. In fact, when I took the BP like I was supposed to, it was so low that I had to hold 3 medications and call the MD. Imagine what would have happened if I had given the meds??? The DON laughed when I insisted on taking the BP saying that I was young and inexperienced.

Then, a family complained about me that I "ask too many questions when the patient wants a pain med (which is actually an anti-anxiety med)." The DON asked me what happened, and I said I normally go through the standard protocol when a patient asks for a PRN med. Typically, when the family comes, the patient says "can I have my tranquilizer?" I say "what's going on? how are you feeling?" pt says "I am feeling anxious" and shakes her hands to make herself look anxious. Meanwhile, pt's hands are shaky all day long and I ask her if she is aware that her hands shake all day. She says she didn't know that. I go and get her ativan. So the DON and the assistant DON told me that I should not ask any questions and just give the PT the med. I explain to her that as per protocol, I have to document why I am giving a controled substance and I have to ask why the pt needs the med. IT's not a tylenol or a vitamin we are talking about here. It is a double locked controlled substances that each shift counts to make sure no pill went missing. And the DON tells me "just give it without asking questions" ??? I told the DON maybe she could explain to the family that I am just following the protocol to give the pt the best care, but she didn't want to do that. Her and the assistant DON both said "We don't side with the nurses. With side with the families because that's who brings the money! There is so much competition among nursing homes and we have to make the family happy so that they stay with us!" They told me that I was impossible to work with and that they are going to write me up for insubordination.

I like caring for patients and always want to do the best I can. I don't think I did anything wrong. I would like any advice on how I can handle the situation while I am stuck at this place for another 1 year and 9 months (unless I get a greencard fast or they somehow decide to terminate the verbal contract ). Leaving the place is not an option. I just would like to figure out how I should behave to make the situation somewhat bearble. By the way, there are some nurses that feel sorry for me and side with me, but they are scared to say something for their own sake...

Any advice will be appreciated!!

Specializes in CTICU.

Why do you keep saying you have "no choice" about staying there? Of course you have a choice!! I would not risk my license working in a place like that, let alone risk my immigration future trusting management like that.

Something is not right, because you shouldn't be able to work on a working visa without the appropriate paperwork (I am on one myself and know what was required!).

Your choices as an adult it seems are to leave, or to accept the situation and stay. If you're going to stay, do what you need to do and keep a low profile. I would not keep popping up being a pain ie. asking for the drug book. Get your own and carry it around if you want to use it. I would not interrogate a patient who wanted anxiolytics either - the fact it's a controlled substance that requires a count does not have anything to do with giving an ordered medication to a patient that requests it.

Why do you keep saying you have "no choice" about staying there? Of course you have a choice!! I would not risk my license working in a place like that, let alone risk my immigration future trusting management like that.

Something is not right, because you shouldn't be able to work on a working visa without the appropriate paperwork (I am on one myself and know what was required!).

Your choices as an adult it seems are to leave, or to accept the situation and stay. If you're going to stay, do what you need to do and keep a low profile. I would not keep popping up being a pain ie. asking for the drug book. Get your own and carry it around if you want to use it. I would not interrogate a patient who wanted anxiolytics either - the fact it's a controlled substance that requires a count does not have anything to do with giving an ordered medication to a patient that requests it.

She had an H1-B from a previous career, and was able to keep that thru the new employer. That is how she got around the requirements for that.

But the fact remains that there are no I-485 petitions being submitted and we do not expect to see them again for at least three years due to the number of applicants last summer.

No chance in getting a green card without that being able to be submitted.

And it will be past the two years of the contract that supposedly does not exist.

Specializes in CTICU.

Still something fishy - you shouldn't be able to transfer a H1B if the new position doesn't meet the specialty occupation requirements, which I'm sure an LTC position doesn't.

My thoughts exactly from the beginning as well. As well as others here.

Specializes in Adult/Geriatric.
i would advise you to consult a lawyer who specializes in immigration. the lawyer would be able to tell you the best course of action that is within the boundaries of US immigration laws.

i always thought that if it is not in writing and is not signed by both parties, then it is not legally binding.

Thanks :-) I do have an expert immigration lawyer.

The fact that I don't have a signed contract is actually to my benefit ;-)

Actually it is not, they can do as they please and not live up to their obligations or what you determine to be a requirement for them.

A letter that is signed by them is just that, it is not a contract. And then it is not something that you both agreed to do especially since you are not even aware of what was in the documentation that was submitted to immigration in the first place. Sorry, but that is not a very good thing at all. And working in the LTC normally does not qualify for the H1-B visa either as well.

There is then no documented proof as to what you need to do, and again, be aware that if the I-485 cannot be accepted before you are done with your two years, they do not need to do anything for you in terms of immigration if you will not be working there at that time.

Remember that the petitioning process requires that you are an employee at that time. Also then, why was your petition not submitted last summer when there was the open window as well?

Still something fishy - you shouldn't be able to transfer a H1B if the new position doesn't meet the specialty occupation requirements, which I'm sure an LTC position doesn't.

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So, what kind of nursing does qualify (a specific position or a specific employer)? I have just graduated with BSN here in the States and I am trying to apply for a job in the area (I have received my OPT card as well)? Can anyone share a little bit more about this part as it is still very much unclear to me?

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.

H1B usually requires experience and training to a certain level. Newly qualified I doubt would meet that criteria plus not many hospitals are using the H1B

Most facilities in the US have not used the H1-B in more than four years as a start. They are using only the green card, and do not accept temporary visas.

The job also must require the BSN as the starting point for the job as well, and majority of jobs in the US do not require it either.

Where in the US are you planning to work? The other issue with the H1-B is that it is only open for a few hours at a time when the petition can be submitted and that was just done in April. The other issue with the H1-B, is that you cannot apply for it and remain in the US if the visa that you are expires until it is available, it is also extremely hard to get as there are only 65,000 per year and most go to the IT and other sectors. That was another reason for the green card, as well as that you would be permanent and could remain in the US.

Currently, there is no guarantee any longer that one will be able to remain in the US and be able to work when their OPT is completed. You are also going to find it more difficult to get hired as well with that.

Best of luck to you.

Specializes in Adult/Geriatric.
Still something fishy - you shouldn't be able to transfer a H1B if the new position doesn't meet the specialty occupation requirements, which I'm sure an LTC position doesn't.

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So, what kind of nursing does qualify (a specific position or a specific employer)? I have just graduated with BSN here in the States and I am trying to apply for a job in the area (I have received my OPT card as well)? Can anyone share a little bit more about this part as it is still very much unclear to me?

A position in nursing management or a nurse supervisor qualifies for H1B, but you must have a BSN, and the position has to require BSN.

Sorry, but I have yet to see where one LTC actually requires the BSN for an entry level position when they use LPNs in management all of the time. And if you are working at the bedside, then you are not in a management capacity by any means and that is what you need to worry about.

Two and two are not equaling four here and it is not just me that thinks that same way either.

It just does not work both ways either. You keep mentioning doing direct patient care and about your supervisor, etc. That is not management at all, and could actually get you in trouble with immigration for not being in the capacity that your papers were submitted for.

And if this attorney was so wonderful, why were you never submitted when you had the opportunity for the green card last summer as well? If you are supposed to work only for two years for this facility, then what are you going to be doing afterwards as there is no way that you will have your green card within that time if you have been doing any reading here or with the Visa Bulletins that come out each month.

Subacute floor is not LTC it maybe a LTCH which is completely different, but a new graduate even with a BSN .....is not a manager.

I agree with your assessment.

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