Help BSN final presentation/volunteer

Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN · Jul 4, 2014

thread moved for best response

EasterRN · Jul 5, 2014

Well, I was gonna offer up until I read your last line. Why would you want suggestions from nurses that don’t know “real medicine” and are part of the “ridiculousness” of anything less than ARNP? That wasn’t nice, I think I’ll keep all my fabulous suggestions to myself. :nurse:

tokmom, BSN, RN · Jul 5, 2014

You must be in a really poor BSN program if it's ridiculous. I feel for you. Like EasterRN said, what you say against the profession of anything less than an ARNP (which is still a nurse), is demoralizing to the profession.

I had a few ideas as well, but obviously, you don't want to hear them from a non-medical, non ARNP person.

Why not ask on the ARNP board?

Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN · Jul 5, 2014

To the OP/s defense...I felt my RN-BSN program was a bunch of busy work. and didn't offer me anything but letters after my name.

OP...that probably wasn't the best statement. What are you referring to as "real medicine? It is offensive to us "other" nurse who are experts bedside nurses.

Suggestion....Red Cross volunteer. Mission ship nursing

[h=3]Volunteer - Project Hope[/h]

iluvivt, BSN, RN · Jul 5, 2014

Yes I agree..... offensive. When I am placing central lines and gaining access to the vascular system I am not in the medial field and practicing nursing. Follow me around for a day or two,I think you would be surprised.

stervets · Jul 5, 2014

I had no intention to hurt anybody`s feelings. I used "real medecine" term for comparison only related to school material, not what you learn at work. No doubt there is plenty of great knowledge that can be learned through working. School on the other hand is a joke. They make you study nursing theories and metaparadigms of nursing, while there are thousands of patients dying from med errors, inadequate knowledge of disease process and lack of nursing assessment skills. Nursing needs more medical education and less BS. More clinical pathophysiology, lab interpretation, pharmacology, and such. Thanks to schools like this doctors think majority of nurses are idiots.

tokmom, BSN, RN · Jul 5, 2014

Doctors will always think nurses are idiots because they are trained to think that way, IMO.

I didn't find my BSN program filled with fluff as people call it. I learned the roots of nursing. Those that embrace theory and the art of nursing, are usually able to see beyond the normal daily tasks and give more holistic care. There has to be some reason a BSN has less sentinel events, according to the IOM, ANA, so why is that, if the program is only full of rainbows and unicorns?

As for med errors, blame that on the system of nurses being overworked.

Lack of assessment skills, etc.. IMO I believe nurses need to keep abreast of EBP and continually advance their education. Become certified, go back to school and obtain a higher degree, take a class on assessment skills. Heck, take a class on the legalities of charting (which may change how nurses assess).

Yep, I'm rambling, but it saddens me that nurses say they learned nothing...nothing...in their BSN program. What a waste of time for you guys. I'm glad I was challenged to think outside the nursing box, and dig deep into the essence of what nursing is.

(off my soapbox)...

nurseprnRN, BSN, RN · Jul 5, 2014

Medecins Sans Frontieres have far, far more nurses than physicians in their organization

Any number of medical missions to underserved areas, including in the US, to deliver medical/surgical/opthalmological/dental/onbstetrical care and health teaching

Food banks, Councils on Aging, Salvation Army, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, parish nursing

FEMA, Red Cross, American Heart Association

Homes for retired religious

You seriously can't think of volunteer organizations where a nursing background might be welcome?

ONLY to nurses? Are you sure?

Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN · Jul 5, 2014

I had no intention to hurt anybody`s feelings. I used "real medecine" term for comparison only related to school material, not what you learn at work. No doubt there is plenty of great knowledge that can be learned through working. School on the other hand is a joke. They make you study nursing theories and metaparadigms of nursing, while there are thousands of patients dying from med errors, inadequate knowledge of disease process and lack of nursing assessment skills. Nursing needs more medical education and less BS. More clinical pathophysiology, lab interpretation, pharmacology, and such. Thanks to schools like this doctors think majority of nurses are idiots.

I have never met a physician that thought a majority of nurses are "idiots" Thousands of patients die from med errors that residents and foolish physicians are responsible for as well.

I am very sorry that your school was inferior...mine however was not. I had all the

More clinical pathophysiology, lab interpretation, pharmacology, and such.

you are seeking in my ASN program.

Now if you are referring to the multitude of RN-BSN programs out there...I agree that they are nothing but busy work and papers.

I am increasingly frustrated by the disdain that nurses are showing other nurses. When you become an APRN you are still...a RN with a broader scope of practice. But you are nonetheless...a Registered Nurse.

I think entry nursing programs have been dumbed down on purpose to promote their own agenda and job security.

A doctor who believes most nurses are idiots...I have little respect for.

MissRNClaire · Jul 5, 2014

Although I think you should definitely put more thought into the way you phrase things....I agree that I don't feel like I learned a lot of valuable information in my RN-BSN program. It really bothers me that employers look so highly on it. Anything of worth I have learned, has been from my ADN program....and I was in a lot less debt. ?