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  1. Should he remove or keep work experience at place in which he was fired on resume?

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      Keep experience and be honest with employer
    • 21
      Remove experience and say/do nothing further b/c employer will not ask what you did between graduation time and time of employment beginning as nurse.
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      Remove experience and say/do nothing further.

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my friend recently graduated with ASN and was fired after working 7mo at longterm/rehab center.

(he worked 4 years there total as dietary aide and cna during RN school)

he was fired for admitting to handing a CNA medication to give to a resident.

(he is now very aware of his mistake)

he found another job at another nursing home but is desperately trying to get a job at an acute care center/hospital.

recently he was interviewed for a local hospital and gave his work history and told his potential employer he was terminated, understood why, and that he currently works PRN and is seeking a fulltime job at the hospital.

the interviewer allowed him to orient on floor but did not hire him

should he keep on his resume his work experience where he was fired at?

or should he take it off his resume and simply say he started working later as a nurse about 6 mo. after he graduated?

he is currently working on BSN.

no disciplinary action was taken against him thru nursing board/state/law.

thoughts?

should he or should he not remove his work experience at the place in which he was terminated?

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Not as in criminal background check but when they run your social to look up earnings. Lots of places do this and they can find out where you worked. I'm not 100% sure of this but this is what I've been told.

No, there is no such thing as a system where they can type in your social security number and find out the reason why you left your last job.

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No, there is no such thing as a system where they can type in your social security number and find out the reason why you left your last job.

That's not what mago8388 said. Of course a background check won't reveal the reason why you left a job, but they can find out every place you've worked (every employer you've gotten paychecks from) -- and, again, if it turns out you have worked for employers you left off your application, many employers consider that sufficient dishonesty to drop you from further consideration. At the least, they can ask you about the omission and the circumstances of your leaving.

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That's not what mago8388 said. Of course a background check won't reveal the reason why you left a job, but they can find out every place you've worked (every employer you've gotten paychecks from) -- and, again, if it turns out you have worked for employers you left off your application, many employers consider that sufficient dishonesty to drop you from further consideration. At the least, they can ask you about the omission and the circumstances of your leaving.

I don't think so. Even the social security administration does not keep record of where you worked and for how long. Just how much you earned per year.

So even if they gave that info away, It would not list your employers.

Sounds like the dreaded "permanent record."

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Well I filled out an application where it stated in bright red letters that if they found out through the background checks that the start and end date of your previous jobs don't match what they find, a possible offer will be denied. Now can they possibly find the start and end dates of past employers? I have to admit that I have stretched a few dates in the past and gotten the job. Is this a new thing? Ever since then I'm afraid to even stretch a month or two lol

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I don't think so. Even the social security administration does not keep record of where you worked and for how long. Just how much you earned per year.

So even if they gave that info away, It would not list your employers.

Sounds like the dreaded "permanent record."

No, the Social Security administration doesn't keep that info, but lots of employers include credit/financial checks in their background checks, and that info (not necessarily how long you worked for a particular employer, but who you've gotten paychecks from in the past) can be found.

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Well I filled out an application where it stated in bright red letters that if they found out through the background checks that the start and end date of your previous jobs don't match what they find, a possible offer will be denied. Now can they possibly find the start and end dates of past employers? I have to admit that I have stretched a few dates in the past and gotten the job. Is this a new thing? Ever since then I'm afraid to even stretch a month or two lol

Are you seriously asking that? They call and ask the previous employers when and for how long you worked for them. Somewhere in the fine print on the application, you are giving them permission to contact all your previous employers. What would be the point of asking you for that information other than to contact the employers and verify the dates and what they have to say about you as an employee?

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Are you seriously asking that? They call and ask the previous employers when and for how long you worked for them. Somewhere in the fine print on the application, you are giving them permission to contact all your previous employers. What would be the point of asking you for that information other than to contact the employers and verify the dates and what they have to say about you as an employee?

Except that when I was updating my resume, I was unsure of my start/end dates for a few positions held many years ago. I called HR for a couple places and for whatever reason, they didn't have access to that information. I was stunned. I guess if prospective employers call them they will get the same lack of info.

*In my case, these companies had merged with other entities after I left, but still, you'd think HR kept better track of that information. :confused:

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Yes I seriously ask that because the previous poster said it doesn't show. And also I heard that most employers don't check previous jobs older than 7 years. Don't worry I don't do that anymore because the reasons I stated before.

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No, the Social Security administration doesn't keep that info, but lots of employers include credit/financial checks in their background checks, and that info (not necessarily how long you worked for a particular employer, but who you've gotten paychecks from in the past) can be found.

How? Or in other words, what makes you believe this?

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Hmm I'm curious to know what a prospective employer can really find out about you and if they really look your previous job dates. Like the pp said, there are some jobs that I'm not even sure of my start and end dates, I mostly estimate them from what I can remember. But I'm concerned because that application I filled out for a job that I'm really interested in says that if your start and end dates don't match their background check you will not be considered for employment. How long does HR keep information about previous employees? That's a heck lot of people to keep track off if you're working in a hospital and you worked say 15 years ago for just a year.

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Short answer: it is routine for HR minions to consult the state database on employment for work comp claims on new applicants. Every employer of more than a certain size must pay work comp premium for its employees. This means ... Employment data.

They also check credit data, which includes...employment data.

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http://idealistcareers.org/whats-the-deal-with-background-checks/

"To be honest, this varies from organization to organization, and state to state. Remember, a background check costs money, so employers pay to see a certain amount of information. The more information, the more money it costs.

Here are a few things that we CAN see on your background:

Former addresses

Credit history

Former employment

Length of employment

College and graduate degrees earned

Criminal history over the past ten years

Here are things we CANNOT see on your background:

Previous salary

Reason for termination

Employee reviews

Grades earned

Criminal history more than ten years old"

https://www.privacyrights.org/employment-background-checks-jobseekers-guide

"Background reports can range from a verification of an applicant's Social Security number to a detailed account of the potential employee's history and acquaintances. Information included in a background check will depend to some extent on the employer and the job involved. For many jobs, a state or federal law requires the employer to conduct a background check. Jobs that involve work with children, the elderly or people with disabilities are examples of jobs that will almost certainly require a criminal background check. Some employers search social networking sites such as Facebook for the profiles of applicants.

Here are some of the pieces of information that might be included in a background check. Note that many of these sources are public records created by government agencies.

Driving records

Vehicle registration

Credit records

Criminal records

Social Security no.

Education records

Court records

Workers' compensation

Bankruptcy

Character references

Medical records

Property ownership

Military records

State licensing records

Drug test records

Past employers

Personal references

Incarceration records

Sex offender lists"

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