Help! Advice needed HPRP Michigan

MichelleTinsel · Mar 17

Nurselee22 said:

when you did your first evaluation, was it HPRP approved? (im sorry if I missed it while reading you posts). and also did you enter a second evaluation?

my case is a bit different, but I did enter evaluation myself with hprp and hprp closed my case with no diagnosis. now im waiting for BON but im afraid they could push monitoring for me, or evaluation again....im loosing my mind until I'm cleared or I hear anything from BON

Yes, my first eval was HPRP approved and the 2nd too. A therapist gave me a diagnosis from the first eval (which actually isn't legal). My 2nd evaluator was straight up honest with me and said due to my OWI, I automatically get an agreement no matter what. I requested the 2nd eval. Ugh that's frustrating! Glad they closed it for you, hopefully you hear soon. I understand the anxiety...we are expected to have all things done quickly but they move so slowly.

Nurselee22 · Mar 17

MichelleTinsel said:

Yes, my first eval was HPRP approved and the 2nd too. A therapist gave me a diagnosis from the first eval (which actually isn't legal). My 2nd evaluator was straight up honest with me and said due to my OWI, I automatically get an agreement no matter what. I requested the 2nd eval. Ugh that's frustrating! Glad they closed it for you, hopefully you hear soon. I understand the anxiety...we are expected to have all things done quickly but they move so slowly.

Why wasn't it legal? How long is your agreement? Have you talked to any of the BON people? I'm so afraid they will ask me to do a second evaluation with HPRP .... mine is not owi, just suspected diversion with no proof, just not charted. I just want this to be over. I want my life back. Every email, every text I feel like it's BON ... I hate this so much

MichelleTinsel · Mar 18

Nurselee22 said:

Why wasn't it legal? How long is your agreement? Have you talked to any of the BON people? I'm so afraid they will ask me to do a second evaluation with HPRP .... mine is not owi, just suspected diversion with no proof, just not charted. I just want this to be over. I want my life back. Every email, every text I feel like it's BON ... I hate this so much

Bc a licensed therapist gave me a diagnosis in a 30 min virtual eval with nothing but a few questions. The psychiatrist should have been the one to diagnose. But I just gave up. Oh yours is very different...you should be fine. Even with a second eval, you'll be fine. Kinda crazy they reported you to HPRP for not charting...a simple mistake we all could make bc we are overwhelmed. You should OK, case will be closed.

MichelleTinsel · Mar 23

How often do you guys get called to test for RecoveryTrek? 3 days in I got called for a blood test and I'm just wondering how many times a month this will happen.

Healer555 · Mar 23

MichelleTinsel said:

How often do you guys get called to test for RecoveryTrek? 3 days in I got called for a blood test and I'm just wondering how many times a month this will happen.

My friend did it in Michigan. 5x a month the first year 4x a month2nd year and 3x a month 3rd year

MichelleTinsel · Mar 23

Dang, that's a lot. Thanks!

Nurselee22 · Mar 23

MichelleTinsel said:

Dang, that's a lot. Thanks!

how long is your contract? did you sign a contract already or are you being evaluated? when I went through evaluation I was tested 5x a month.

Healer555 · Mar 23

MichelleTinsel said:

Dang, that's a lot. Thanks!

Yes it is. Some states are 3x a month or less.

MichelleTinsel · Mar 23

Nurselee22 said:

how long is your contract? did you sign a contract already or are you being evaluated? when I went through evaluation I was tested 5x a month.

I signed a 3 year contact, did 2 evals. My first evaluator is also serving as my therapist and she's confused why they gave me all of this and said she'll try to get it shortened.

Healer555 · Mar 23

MichelleTinsel said:

I signed a 3 year contact, did 2 evals. My first evaluator is also serving as my therapist and she's confused why they gave me all of this and said she'll try to get it shortened.

Let me know if you get it shortened.

NurseJackie69 · Mar 23

It's not about Recovery Trek or Affinity. These are just outsourced monitoring based computer platforms. They don't decide how much you test. Your case manager/state/recovering/Monitoring Program does. There are NPS in Michigan who test 3 times a month for 5 years. There are nurses who test 5 times per month for a year, then down to 4 times per month, then 3, etc...Some have testing increased the final year. It depends on your diagnosis of mild or moderate or severe and former drugs of choice and length of time you have, 3 years or 4 or 5, etc. There isn't a set cookie cutter approach and this is not just specific to each state or each monitoring program, but specific to each nurses case.

Example. I have 3 NPs friends in Michigan One tests 2 times monthly for 5 years. One tested 5 times per month for year 1, then 4 times per month for year 2, then 3 times per month for year 3 and she was done at 3 years. The other one had a 5 year contract and tested 2 times per month for 2 years, 14 times per year for years 3 and 4, and 36 times in the final year.

Short answer....it varies.

MichelleTinsel · Mar 23

Good to know! Thanks for all the info! My diagnosis is "recovering alcoholic" based on eval. I drank a few times a week in the past. None for the past two. Mostly based on my owi I'm sure. Haven't seen the addictionologist yet so wonder what he'll say.