I just want to ask if anybody here who also attended to the BLS/CPR training of Zach's Lifesaving Training Services , they're from Cebu because my certificates that was issued by the owner was not recognized by any agency when I applied going abroad. I believed to what they told us during the training that the training is certified by Emergency First Response (http://www.ECSInstitute.org and http://www.emergencyfirstresponse.com) and it is recognized in the USA and other countries. Throughout the Central Philippines we are already thousands having this certificates, how come that EFR is not recognized in America? He's training is on going right now and thousands of participants are added every month throughout the Central Philippines and is expanding. The participants are mostly newly pledge nurses who wants to have a proper training and have an aunthentic certificate for applying in London, Canada, Australia and USA. The owner found it as an opportunity to contenue conducting a training every week from different places here in Central Philippines. So imagine hundreds and thousands of nurses are having certificates and cards. I really confused on what to do and need to attend again to other training that is recognized in the USA.
@ nurse chao: i have discovered one training center in visayas, they're saying they are an accredited and approved center by ecsi. a friend of mine tried to verified their legitimacy thru ecsi website. and here's the reply from ecsi
[color=gray][color=gray]"i’m sorry to say that ____________ is no longer an approved education center with ecsi. we have made numerous attempts to make contact with them to try and rectify a certain matter and, unfortunately, they have made no reply back to us. therefore, they are not currently in good standing with ecsi"
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so colleagues be careful....
before you pay for the training ask them the following
1. what is their approved accreditation
2. verify it thru the website of their approved accreditation
3. ask them if they can give you an authentic completion id's from their approved accreditation. and tell them to show it to you just to make sure...
@NurseChao: I was alarmed about the authenticity of the accreditation status of Basic Lifesaving Solutions by ECSI.... please give us some light on this issue...
Regarding the completion cards issued by Basic Lifesaving Solutions:
why is it the cards issued looks like more of a cardboard rather than a laminated plastic like ATM card or credit cards?
Rather then the ECSI placed on the titlehead of the card... American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons and American College of Emergency Physicians were placed insted...?
what are there connections with EMERGENCY CARE AND SAFETY INSTITUTE...?
@NurseChao: I was alarmed about the authenticity of the accreditation status of Basic Lifesaving Solutions by ECSI.... please give us some light on this issue...
Regarding the completion cards issued by Basic Lifesaving Solutions:
why is it the cards issued looks like more of a cardboard rather than a laminated plastic like ATM card or credit cards?
Rather then the ECSI placed on the titlehead of the card... American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons and American College of Emergency Physicians were placed insted...?
what are there connections with EMERGENCY CARE AND SAFETY INSTITUTE...?
Hi there!!
RNBN, do not be alarmed by the authenticity of the accreditation status of Basic Lifesaving Solutions. They are accredited and they issue original ECSI course completion cards. You can even go to google search and type "first aid training in cebu". Please click the first result and you will see there an add by Basic Lifesaving... scroll down and read the testimonials from the participants who have joined the course and are now in Canda, Switzerland, United States and other countries.
With respect to your question as to the quality of the card, the card is indeed in cardboard form. If you kindly read the first post here and the following two replies, what the other training center (instructor) issued were plastic atm cards which naturally are fake. Have you taken any courses from ECSI, AHA, American Red Cross and any other international institutes? If not, then be enlightened that cards issued by those institutes are always in cardboard form considering that the accredited instructor from those institutes buys the card from the institute and then print the name of the participant after completion of the course.
If and when you are issued a plastic card, then it is obvious that such card is fake... since those cards are just printed from a print shop and the cost is so around 80 to 100 pesos. However this cards are not valid since they do not come from the institute. In fact read the first post, this is exactly the reason why this thread was created because of the complaint about fake cards (plastic cards). If you like more enlightenment, send me your email so I can send you a picture of how an ECSI, AHA cards look like... as mentioned all of them are in card board (paper type) form.
Now going back to your query about American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons and American College of Emergency Physicians being on title head.. this is because the two organizations above are the course content providers for ECSI courses....
I hope that you are now clarified on the issues... one thing is sure, if you have joined any BLS or ACLS training from any institute and you were issued a PLASTIC CARD, then most likely they are fake..... You can simply scan them and contact the institute (ECSI, AHA, etc) and complain. I am sure that they will advise you on what actions to make against those who issued fake cards....
And I'm proud to say that Basic Life Saving Solutions is affiliated with Prime Nurselink Review former "Amdream Review"
i wonder why you are all trying to destroy the image of a pioneer training center in the philippines. i have undergone all the trainings from this center. it is very updated, detailed and rigid. it has been very helpful for the nurses in sharpening their emergency skills.
a lot of them have gone & worked abroad. you can even communicate with them directly to know how the training has helped them. if you want i can give you their personal information.
instructors, i know who you are. i have witnessed that you have completed your training & credentials from lifesavers circle training center.
after you have been trained, molded as instructors & have learned more knowledge & skills from lifesavers...you have the guts to destroy the group where you came from???
remember this!!!!...without lifesavers circle, who started it all... you may not become an ecsi instructor & your training center could not have existed!!
oh come on...nurses...you talk a lot of negative things about the center because you believe the evil lies of some nurses who did not get their personal desires from the group because of their incompetence.
yes a lot of nurses had negative comments...but here is what ecsi headquarters have to say................
(now you decide where to believe...from unprofessional nurses? or to the ecsi director?)
from: ***********
sent: tuesday, september 21, 2010 9:29 am
to: '********'
subject: re: inquiry
[color=gray][color=gray]thank you for your inquiry.
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[color=gray][color=gray]i'm sorry to say that ________ is no longer an approved education center with ecsi. we have made numerous attempts to make contact with them to try and rectify a certain matter and, unfortunately, they have made no reply back to us. therefore, they are not currently in good standing with ecsi.
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[color=gray][color=gray]should you happen to speak with them you may want to let them know and have them contact us right away to try and resolve these issues.
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[color=gray][color=gray]if you are looking to take an approved ecsi course we do have a few approved centers in the philippines . one to try is:
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[color=gray][color=gray]agbay lifesavers circle training services
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[color=gray]cell #: *******
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[color=gray][color=gray]if i can be of further assistance please let me know.
Life is not unfair. You choose your own destiny. It might be on the Good side or on the Bad side but the fact is YOU are the one choosing it. Everyone is striving on their own it might be with or without help. Humans are born to have free will but it is still stipulated that be contented on what you have and you should not be greedy. Everyone is also earning on what they have. They have sacrifices in life and even shed tears just to be stand out than others. NURSES had solemnly swear to DO NO HARM and has the VIRTUE of HONESTY but what these commotion all about? Who is telling the truth? The one posting it? Think deeply... In every TRIAL one thing that the LAWYER is asking is the EVIDENCE because a WORD from anyone might be a LIE Right? So in summary of these with a fair conscience the one that they are arguing is the AUTHENTICITY of a certain center namely AGBAY LIFESAVERS CIRCLE TRAINING SERVICES under ECSI but did you NOTICE something? The Emergency Care and Safety Institute itself is RECOMMENDING the said training center. You can even ask the ECSI. So guys before you will believe someone you verify first if it is really true.
Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.
Guys, can be please settle down, some people are posting their experiences with said company, it may be different than yours but it is their experience
The topic in this issue is the credibility of the Training Center "AGBAY Lifesavers Circle". Why are you marketing other Training Center? Please dont be so obvious, because we professionals are not playing dumb. Please search and research about AGBAY Lifesavers Circle, be open-minded, if you have any questions about them, ask them directly or from any of their instructors. YOU know their instructors anyway. Or rather, ask the owner of the Training Center instead. And I know YOU know Mr. Agbay...
In every TRIAL one thing that the LAWYER is asking is the EVIDENCE because a WORD from anyone might be a LIE Right? So in summary of these with a fair conscience the one that they are arguing is the AUTHENTICITY of a certain center namely AGBAY LIFESAVERS CIRCLE TRAINING SERVICES under ECSI but did you NOTICE something? The Emergency Care and Safety Institute itself is RECOMMENDING the said training center. You can even ask the ECSI. So guys before you will believe someone you verify first if it is really true.
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@ nurse chao: i have discovered one training center in visayas, they're saying they are an accredited and approved center by ecsi. a friend of mine tried to verified their legitimacy thru ecsi website. and here's the reply from ecsi
[color=gray][color=gray]"i’m sorry to say that ____________ is no longer an approved education center with ecsi. we have made numerous attempts to make contact with them to try and rectify a certain matter and, unfortunately, they have made no reply back to us. therefore, they are not currently in good standing with ecsi"
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so colleagues be careful....
before you pay for the training ask them the following
1. what is their approved accreditation
2. verify it thru the website of their approved accreditation
3. ask them if they can give you an authentic completion id's from their approved accreditation. and tell them to show it to you just to make sure...
hope this helps....