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Great Nurse = Great Leader???

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airwaynurse has 22 years experience and specializes in Critical Care, Flight Nursing.

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Often times it seems that the unprepared are thrust into leadership roles without any preparation. Have you ever seen this happen in your workplace? Is it seen as a problem or "just the way it is?" What can be done as a remedy to the problem? Do nurses even view that a problem exists? Let me share what I have seen as a problem over the years and offer some encouragement to those that might want to effect solutions. You are reading page 3 of Great Nurse = Great Leader???. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

Nurses are routinely in leadership positions without preparation or training

  1. 1. Nurses are routinely in leadership positions without preparation or training

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Ruby Vee has 40 years experience as a BSN and specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.

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llg,

 

I guess that my worldview got in the way of your understanding. Treating people how you would like to be treated is simply this: showing respect, kindness, love and compassion to other humans. That is grounded in Imago Dei, the belief that all humans are created in the image of God. It is a Judeo-Christian idea. That was my point in bringing it up. Worldview shows up In everything.

 

It seems to me the "platinum rule" would essentially lead to the "inmates running the asylum." A leader shouldn't check with the led to make sure they approve of how they lead. The other glaring problem with the "platinum rule" is that the opportunity for consistency is thwarted. Everyone gets different treatment.

 

I couldn't agree more with your comment (at least part a):

 

"The best leaders know how to use multiple approaches and can tailor their approach to the individual situation."

but, part b is really a non-sequitar. Boundaries are everywhere, no one is immune to them.

 

As far as "simple platitudes" goes, mine were spoken first by Jesus, yours, on the other hand......

WOW! For someone who spouts Bible verses without prompting, you can sure get snarky.

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LadyFree28 has 10 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in Pediatrics, Rehab, Trauma.

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Lol me too but I'm a tad offended that not one of you gals gave me a heads up that this thread is one that shouldn't be missed!! :D

:laugh: no one could've predicted how this was going to turn out... :no:

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nursel56 has 25+ years experience and specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.

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Gee, what a surprise -- yet another "article" by an OP who says in the article that s/he is encouraging others to share their views and ideas on the topic, but then, when s/he gets any responses that differ from her/his opinion, lashes out at anyone who dares to have a different perspective or not share her/his enthusiasm for ancient religious writings as a legitimate academic/scientific reference. (Helpful tip for OP: Getting nasty with people who don't happen to share your religious beliefs is not a great advertisement for Christianity.)

I never thought I'd say this, but I'm starting to have some grudging respect for the people who post here who state right up front that they don't want any responses that criticize or disagree with them ... At least they're honest ... :)

I thought this post was so good that it needed repeating.

Loved it!

I thought the first one was an unfortunate "one-off". That was the one who also put quote marks around the word "articles" when she referred to those written by our membership when that topic came up.

At this point I am genuinely perplexed as to the reason this is going on. I find member-written articles much more enjoyable and informative. If anyone thinks it's the sign of a professional writer to **** off your readers, I'll take the "amateurs", thank you.

To the OP. I really hoped to contribute to the discussion of good nurse, good leader. I wasn't offended by the Bible verses, because I have recently been pondering the topic of "what is a leader". I'd call that a missed opportunity, especially with the specific people who understandably responded to your snark instead of sharing on the topic.

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To the OP. I really hoped to contribute to the discussion of good nurse, good leader. I wasn't offended by the Bible verses, because I have recently been pondering the topic of "what is a leader". I'd call that a missed opportunity, especially with the specific people who understandably responded to your snark instead of sharing on the topic.

The first person who tried to "share" on the topic and offered a different perspective got the snark. I imagine that has a chilling effect on anyone else who might be interested in participating in a real discussion.

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airwaynurse has 22 years experience and specializes in Critical Care, Flight Nursing.

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Snarky Fact check:

 

The first person (HouTx) did share, with examples from their personal experiences, as had been my hope in writing the article from the start. My "article" as you say, was written from my 30 years of personal experience, not anyone else's experience. As is quite often the case, my worldview permeated my writing (it doesmy spoken word too) and viewpoint (like everyone's does at times).

 

The second "guide" shared nothing except an example of the "platinum rule." Otherwise, llg's "sharing" was a critique of the frame of reference of the "article" beginning with the first sentence: "I have a problem with the 'golden rule'....." and ending with branding the content as "simple platitudes." Evidently that is what the Guides are for? To make sure that you (the rank OP) know what they think of the content of your "article"? Not much share in that....

 

 

Maybe Mulder was right after all!

 

"Sometimes the need to mess with their heads outweighs the millstone of humiliation."

 

or as Inigo Montoya said in the Princess Bride: "You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means."

 

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A quote from one of the brightest minds the world has seen and a great leader. I don't agree 100% but respect it.

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Red Kryptonite has 3 years experience and specializes in hospice.

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As long as we're tossing out Einstein quotes:

To sense that behind everything that can be experienced there is something that our minds cannot grasp, whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly: this is religiousness. In this sense...I am a devoutly religious man.”

everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a Spirit vastly superior to that of man.”

Let's just say that Albert Einstein, like most people, is more complicated than the box you'd like to put him into.

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As long as we're tossing out Einstein quotes:

To sense that behind everything that can be experienced there is something that our minds cannot grasp, whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly: this is religiousness. In this sense...I am a devoutly religious man.”

everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a Spirit vastly superior to that of man.”

Let's just say that Albert Einstein, like most people, is more complicated than the box you'd like to put him into.

I like that Red! Thanks for sharing.

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nursel56 has 25+ years experience and specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.

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The first person who tried to "share" on the topic and offered a different perspective got the snark. I imagine that has a chilling effect on anyone else who might be interested in participating in a real discussion.

I hope my comment didn't come across as critical of people responding to the snark. I actually meant the opposite. Having you and others participate in any discussion is a high value thing to me and probably many others reading the thread.

airwaynurse - I reread Ilg's post and I honestly didn't see it the way you did. I believe she tried to made sure to talk about the concepts rather than the person, so this comment:

As far as "simple platitudes" goes, mine were spoken first by Jesus, yours, on the other hand......

Jumped out as a reference to the Church Lady, unwittingly perhaps. Were readers supposed to finish that with oh, I don't know.......could it be...Satan???

Say what you will about any of the guides, I don't think any actually dwell in The Dark Place. A lot of the issues in this thread lead me to believe Alan Greenspan was right after all...

I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant”

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I hope my comment didn't come across as critical of people responding to the snark. I actually meant the opposite.

(No, I didn't think you sounded critical. And I appreciate the Church Lady reference. :))

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Red Kryptonite has 3 years experience and specializes in hospice.

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Doesn't everyone love The Church Lady?

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