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A friend of mine that was recently accepted to nursing school said that she went to talk to someone who was on the admissions committee and she asked why she was accepted with only a 3.0 GPA. She was told that she put on her application that she worked an a CNA 20 hours a week and had one child. She is a single parent and took Micro, Chemistry, History, Women's Studies, and statistics all in the same semester. She got B's in the sciences and C's in the other classes. Apparently, the woman told her that she as impressed by the fac that she had failed her first semester at school and still managed to pull up all those F's and that she did not give up. Not only that, she seemed to give the important classes(the sciences ) more attention than the other classes, hence her higher grades in those classes. She does have an A in both A&P I and II and all her other grades are A's and B's. The woman went on further to state that anyone who could perservere and pull up F's and manage to work, take care of a child, and take that many classes would be successful in nursing school. According to her, she frowns upon people who have 4.0 GPA's, but took one or two classes at a time. to her, this is not indicatitive of a person who can handle a high course load and still manage to pass as anyone can take one class and get an A. A person who takes many classes and gets a B average is better than a person who gets an A while taking one class because in nursing school, no one takes one class at a time.

What do you think of these comments? The school she goes to chooses people based on individual decisions made on applications and not point systems or GPA ranks; all you need is at least a 2.8 GPA . my friend thought there was a mistake made (not that she was complaining) especially with all the competition and she asked how the decision had been made.

Specializes in LTC.

I acctually think what the lady on the commissions committee said. I'm sure she's talking about the 4.0's who aren't working, and aren't raising children. I'm surprised at the people who took offense to that comment. This women isn't taking just the gpa and course load into consideration, but life expeirence as well. She's talking about the expierence of workign through school so you can eat. She's talking about raising children. I think that anyone who works/raises kids as they go through school. I think all of us who do that should take the time to label ourselves amazing people, 4.0 and 3.0 alike.

Specializes in Med-Surg.

Did it ever occur to this person that someone might be taking only 2-3 classes because that's all they can afford? Not everyone qualifies for a free education.

Our DON made it clear to us on day one that those who had got in with a part-time 4.00 gpa were going to have a hard time handling the load. May she eat her words every day she's forced to gaze upon our test scores.

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
Did it ever occur to this person that someone might be taking only 2-3 classes because that's all they can afford? Not everyone qualifies for a free education.

Oh, yeah, forgot to add that to my list of "why's" as well lol.

Specializes in Critical Care.

I guess I shouldn't mention that my program took all guys first. I had an OK gpa and stuff, but the reason why I bumped to the head of my 2 yr waiting list was simply cause I'm a guy. . .

But hey, no regrets here.

~faith,

Timothy.

Bottom line, this school has the right, legally and ethically, to determine their own criteria for admission to their programs. If you don't like their criteria, you are free to choose a school that has criteria more to your liking or that fits better with your abilities and strengths.

My own personal observations have led me to believe that these administrators were spot on in their assessment that she will be a successful nursing student. My school's admission criteria are very cut-and-dried: x gpa or x score on sat/act to get in. Unfortunately, many many many students have no job, no kids, live with mommy and daddy, no responsibilities, take 1-2 classes at a time, "shop around" for easy profs, and get accepted into the program with their bright, shiney 4.0 gpa that means diddly-squat. (In our school, pre-req's are romper room compared to the actual nursing courses.) These students generally are the ones who either (a) flunk out first semester because they couldn't hack it, or (b) "C" their way through nursing school, skidding in by the skin of their teeth each quarter.

Unfortunately, I also met students in pre-req's who were intelligent, dedicated, and hard-working. They also were raising children, working, being responsible productive adults, and because of all that, made A's and B's rather than all A's, and didn't quite make it into the program. They would have done well in nursing school, and made excellent nurses. But they were edged out by other students. Me thinks our completion rate would be higher if different criteria were used ;-) I wonder how that school's completion rate and first-time NCLEX pass-rate look??? Would be interesting to see.

Specializes in med surg, icu.
What do you think of these comments? The school she goes to chooses people based on individual decisions made on applications and not point systems or GPA ranks; all you need is at least a 2.8 GPA . my friend thought there was a mistake made (not that she was complaining) especially with all the competition and she asked how the decision had been made.

I think it's great... they're actually looking at the whole package instead of a bunch of numbers.

Besides, GPA is a horrible indicator of how well a person will do in a school. Some schools are easier than others. A 3.8 at one school might be easier to get than a 2.8 somewhere else. Schools SHOULD be paying attention to the whole application package. The same can be argued about majors...

You never know... maybe they were impressed with her time/experience with a CNA and had good recommendations to back up her application.

In my pre-nursing courses, I had to take 1 class most semesters cause I couldn't afford more than 2. Because I couldn't get financial aid through the school, I had to pay my way. Hmmm, what if they considered that for me I may have never got into nursing school.

Specializes in Operating Room.

I have a 3.77 for the nursing pre-reqs, but plan on having a 4.0 for Fall's application!!!!

Why? Because I'm repeating courses! Why? Because I can! lol

Actually, even if I have to repeat courses to get to a 4.0, it shows I'm dedicated. I'll do what it takes to get into nursing school! tyvm. :rolleyes:

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