Not submitting all the schools I've attended in my applications?

  1. So I'm about to apply to Nursing school.
    I'm gathering my transcripts. However, I have one issue. I ended up taking a couple of classes from another college and got Cs in two classes AFTER I've graduated and got my bachelors. I wasn't that serious about those classes so I didn't even try hard. Those 2 classes were taken like 8 years ago.

    My school only looks at my last 2 years for the GPA, but those two C's will hurt my GPA like crazy. Right now my last 2 years worth of GPA is ~3.5 But those two classes are like 10 unit combined and my GPA might drop like crazy from it.

    So if anyone can share some insight, what will happen if I just don't submit that transcript?
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  3. by   meanmaryjean
    If the school requires ALL transcripts and you intentionally omit, then that is academic dishonesty. Not good.
  4. by   Miiki
    If they find out later... say, when you apply for financial aid...Or perhaps they participate in the national student clearing house... They could kick you out or revoke your degree if you manage to graduate.
  5. by   MotoMonkey
    Seems like a silly and unnecessary risk. Especially since you stated these grades are from eight years ago and the school you are applying to only looks at the past two years to calculate your GPA.
  6. by   Ohm268
    If the school wants all transcripts from all academic institutions where you have taken classes and they find out that you didn't provide or omitted information once you are admitted to their program, most schools have a policy that clearly states that they have the right to revoke your admission. Like other posters have said, seems like a silly risk to take especially at the graduate level where academic integrity is rather important as you start doing or contributing to research. The question most schools will ask themselves if the applicant is willing to omit a piece of information in a graduate / post-bac school application, what else will they likely omit once they are admitted and producing scholarly work? Not worth the risk considering this is going to be your future career and something you seem to be serious about given you are pursuing a nursing degree. To take it a step further, nurses can and do give a lot of narcotics and opioids as part of patient pain management that have quite a high street value if sold. Will the school have enough confidence in your ethics in healthcare if at the beginning of your nursing education you omit something in your applications? Just some food for thought.
    Last edit by Ohm268 on Nov 7, '17
  7. by   FolksBtrippin
    Because of FERPA, they do not have access to your grades unless you give permission for them to see them.

    That is to protect you.

    Do not send them the transcripts. It is not academic dishonesty. It is your right.
  8. by   Ohm268
    Quote from FolksBtrippin
    Because of FERPA, they do not have access to your grades unless you give permission for them to see them.

    That is to protect you.

    Do not send them the transcripts. It is not academic dishonesty. It is your right.
    While it is true what @FolksBtrippin is saying that a university can not access your student record unless you give them permission under FERPA, it doesn't preclude the university from finding out another way. You might accidentally mention that you attended another university during an interview and they start to question why they don't have the academic records from that university for that time period or in your resume they note that there is a gap in your academic record and they ask what you were doing during that time period and they decide to dig deeper.

    Secondly, FERPA only applies to a student of the university. This is defined as someone that is enrolled or currently taking courses by correspondence at the university which does not apply to you since you are currently only an applicant. Students who are accepted to a university but have not formally enrolled are also not covered by FERPA until they are actually enrolled in classes at the university. Students who are only auditing a class but not formally enrolled are also not covered by FERPA.

    Thirdly, again it is your right not to provide them with your academic records but it is also their right to revoke your admission if they find out your applicant data is incomplete. Since they don't have a complete picture of your academic record the university does not have a full picture to help them decide whether you would be a good addition to their student population, it will be grounds for revocation of your admission. As a few of us have stated before, it is not worth the risk after all the work you have put in to apply. This is why when a university asks for a complete academic record to apply for admission to a university we provide all of our records. We don't cherry pick only the grades or universities that we want the admissions committee to see.
    Last edit by Ohm268 on Nov 7, '17
  9. by   OllieRugby
    Ok thank you. I will call them and have them clarify their transcripts. The "last two years" is my last 90 units, not literally the last two years. Damn, I wish I actually cared about school 10 years ago... I never thought I'd be going back to school.