Final INVALID for whole class b/c cheating

  1. my school breaks each semester into 2 8-week courses, so I just finished the first class of the second year (of 2 year program). So we studied, stressed, passed it, and passed clinical. 2 people flunked it and cried. NOW, we have already started the next class and the next clinical-and it's a harder class and we need to concentrate on it-and the director walks in and says the final is invalid because of accusations of cheating and we must all retake it this friday.

    Now, I would have to have a CVA during the test not to pass the class, and I can hold on to my B and miss many questions, but it still seems unfair. There have been rumors and allegations of cheating all along in the program, and nothing's been done about it. Now, after the admin. doing nothing for a full year, they decide to cancel a final for all of us.

    Anyway, this sucks. It is especially bad because our whole class is ripped apart now. We all suspect each other. Does this happen in other schools? Are many RNs cheating types (despite the public's trust in us as a profession)?? I've seen more cheaters in nursing school than I ever did as an undergraduate in Liberal Arts (maybe just because the stakes are higher?).
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  3. by   SummerGarden
    Quote from schooldays
    and the director walks in and says the final is invalid because of accusations of cheating and we must all retake it this friday.

    I feel for you!!!
  4. by   GeminiTwinRN
    wow. this sure does sound an awful lot like what's gone on in the Philappines and their test being nullified. of course, some may say the comparison is not on the same scale, but the essence is the same.

    i'm sorry you have to re-take the exam, but if puts an end to the doubt, then i don't see where you have a choice. that, and the fact that you'll be dismissed from school if you refuse i suspect.
  5. by   ann945n
    I think its sooooo unfair that because of a few bad eggs everyone gets punished. I would hope they would only ask those in question to retake to the test. I had a girl who was sitting next to me during a test and apparently she was looking at my scan tron sheet ( i had no idea) until the teacher asked me very nicely to move to the back of the class room. He later explained to me why and it didnt bug me at all. The girl next to me got in trouble later. Seemed fair to me and the right way to handle it. Sorry your program isnt as nice, hang in there.
  6. by   firstyearstudent
    Yes, something similar happened to us. We were made to retake a test for comparision purposes only shortly after the initial exam and the allegations. They did end up sticking with the original grades while telling us they were certain people had cheated but could not do anything about it since they couldn't prove it. It was heartbreaking for some of us to be accused of cheating. I felt particularly bad for some friends of mine who studied very intensely to improve their grade markedly for the final, only to be under the heaviest suspicion.
  7. by   BSNtobe2009
    That is so not fair. If they can't figure out who was cheating, then it falls into the "rumor" catagory. The people doing the cheating should be the focus, not the whole class.

    Think about how convenient this will be for anyone who failed the final?
  8. by   CHATSDALE
    this is rough..i hope that the cheaters get weeked out..we don't need nurses like that out there
  9. by   locolorenzo22
    Geez. We joke about cheating but I certainly wouldn't want to be a cheating nurse! Can I cheat my way to getting a person well? Sucks. Sorry, good luck and just pass it pronto....some peeps. We have instructors who sit in the back to observe from the back, movement, streches, signals, etc.
  10. by   destiny5
    Could it be that the 2 people who failed are crying "foul" so that they can get another chance to pass the class? Or are they even allowed to retake the test.
    In my opinion it's a little late to accuse someone of cheating. That should have been done during the exam & not after the grades were posted.
    However, everyone that has gone threwwww nursing school knows that "THEY" do what they want, when they want & 9 times out of 10 get support from the dean to the chancellor-------Keep your head up, count the months--it will be over sooon
  11. by   JaxiaKiley
    Why don't they just use multiple test version? In this day of computers, it's not that hard to mix up the questions.

    That's a real bummer that you have to deal with though.
  12. by   ladyinred667
    Quote from BSNtobe2009

    Think about how convenient this will be for anyone who failed the final?
    Exactly. It's unfair to those who did well the first time.
  13. by   peds4now
    Well, it was such a weird makeup test too. Half the questions were EXACTLY the same as ones we'd had previously, and there were only 3/4 as many questions. So anyone who reviewed their past tests had a good chance of doing well. The retest in no way will help identify cheaters. And those 2 who originally flunked are probably back in, if they even studied a little. Meanwhile, back on the farm, the cheating issue really wasn't addressed or resolved at all.

    I have no faith in my nursing school admin anymore. Maybe they were just trying to reduce their attrition rate!
  14. by   mb1949
    Wow that stinks, there seems to be a lot of cheating going on. I just finished my pre reqs and start clinicals 8/27, let me tell you people cheated through the whole pre req process. I finally got fed up in an organic chemistry class and told the professor. She changed the test , multiple copies, spacing people etc, you should have seen the grades drop like a rock. Anyway most of the cheaters flunk out of our nursing dept or so I hear