Ethical Dilemma

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  1. Do you guys think I deserved a 5% or do you think it's a typo?

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Does this sound like an ethical dilemma? I'm not sure what grade my teacher gave me but I did my calculations on my overall grade in Blackboard and it seems like she gave me a 2/40 for the assignment. The ethical dilemma was the last assignment to be graded. Throughout this Thanksgiving weekend my grade dropped from a 75% to a 73.12% to a 71.93%. I need a 73% to pass and clinicals is over. I don't get it, my teacher told me on the last day of clinicals that I passed but I had 1 more assignment to turn in which was the ethical dilemma, worth 5% of my grade and worth 40 points. Do you guys think this might be a typo? If she only gave me 2/40 points on the assignment, shouldn't she have just given me a 0% for the assignment? Is the 2 points just writing down my name? I'm so sad, angry, and confused. I feel like all of my hard work throughout this semester was all in vain. :( Anyways, here's my ethical dilemma.

1. Identify the clinical setting the situation occurred in. Describe the situation and ethical conflict in detail. You will not receive full credit if you do not describe the complete clinical setting/situation along with the ethical conflict. (4 points)

The clinical setting was in the Labor and Delivery Unit at X Hospital. The patient was diagnosed with Gestational Hypertension and was given Hemabate and Cytotec to control her postpartum hemorrhage. The patient was feeling nauseous, had vomited, and had constant, heavy diarrhea due to the Hemabate and Cytotec. Methergine was not given to control her postpartum hemorrhage because the patient had gestational hypertension and Methergine could have the potential of increasing her blood pressure even more, leading to a stroke. If the patient did not receive Methergine, then she would lose electrolytes and water from the vomiting and the heavy diarrhea caused by the Hemabate and Cytotec. The loss of electrolytes would affect her heart by causing dysrhythmias, and the loss of water could affect her kidneys from dehydration. The nurse gave the patient medications to control her vomiting but none were given to help control her diarrhea. When I came back from lunch and went inside the patient's room, the patient was sitting in a huge pool of diarrhea and the room smelled horrible.

2. Select the top 3 Principles/Rules of Healthcare Ethics involved and describe them in detail utilizing references. (16 points)

The top 3 Principles/Rules of Healthcare Ethics involved are Autonomy, Beneficence, and Nonmaleficence (American Nurses Association, n.d.). Autonomy is allowing the patient to choose the treatment of his or her choice (American Nurses Association, n.d.). Before the patient started pushing, the patient should have been informed of the potential of a postpartum hemorrhage, and the medications available to control the postpartum hemorrhage such as methergine, cytotec, and hemabate, along with the contraindications, side effects, and possible outcomes. After the patient's education, the patient should be allowed to decide which medications to use in her treatment. Beneficence is to promote wellness in our patients (American Nurses Association, n.d.). The nurse should have gave the patient medications to help control her vomiting and diarrhea. Nonmaleficence is to avoid hurting the patient (American Nurses Association, n.d.). The nurse should have monitored and consistently cleaned and changed the patient due to her heavy, constant diarrhea to prevent skin breakdown.

3. Select the top 3 AWHONN Standard X. Ethics involved in this issue and describe them and how they specifically relate to your ethical conflict (in detail). You must utilize references. (16 points)

The top 3 AWHONN Standard X Ethics involved in this issue are promoting patient advocacy and helping them learn the skills to maintain their advocacy, compassionately delivery patient care to promote their dignity, and safety, and protecting patients from unethical healthcare decisions and practices (Association of Women's Health, Obstetric, and Neonatal Nurses, 2009). Promoting patient advocacy and helping patients learn the skills to maintain their advocacy as well as compassionately delivering patient care to promote their dignity, and safety (Association of Women's Health, Obstetric, and Neonatal Nurses, 2009) relate to my ethical conflict because when I came back from lunch, my patient was sitting in a large pool of diarrhea and the room smelled horrible. The nurse should have consistently monitored the patient helped changed her chucks, and made sure the patient had her call light in reach so the patient could call for assistance whenever possible if she had another episode of diarrhea. Protecting patients from unethical healthcare decisions and practices relates to my ethical conflict because the doctors and nurses chose the treatment option for the patient instead of letting the patient choose what treatment option was best for her. Before the patient started pushing, the nurse should inform the patient of the potential for a postpartum hemorrhage, the medications available to control the postpartum hemorrhage such as methergine, cytotec, and hemabate, and their contraindications, side effects, and possible outcomes.

If known, describe the actual outcome. If known, then points will be deducted for choosing this ethical dilemma. (4 points)

Before my nurse and I handed the patient to the postpartum nurse, the patient still felt nauseous and had diarrhea. However, she was able to get up to the bathroom and urinate with our assistance.

I personally talked to my instructors and I know they were giving me so many chances. The thing is, based on my nursing school's policy, if I fail the course I fail nursing school. My instructor even told me on the last day of clinicals that I passed so that's why I'm confused.

If she said you passed, I would talk to her in person. I don't think you deserve '2' points for your assignment. You still came up with a topic. I would speak to her in person about that. If she didn't pass you, I would go to the dean. You are paying money.

Specializes in OR, Nursing Professional Development.
If she didn't pass you, I would go to the dean. You are paying money.

Paying money doesn't mean one should automatically pass. The paper was to be on an ethical dilemma; the majority of us fail to see a clearly defined and explained ethical dilemma in what was posted.

If she said you passed, I would talk to her in person. I don't think you deserve '2' points for your assignment. You still came up with a topic. I would speak to her in person about that. If she didn't pass you, I would go to the dean. You are paying money.

You do realize the flaws in the logic that you should pass because you've paid money? The money funds your classroom time and instructors but is in no way a guarantee to pass. Schools uphold academic standards to ensure patient safety. Can you imagine a medical school that passed doctors because they complained despite failing the coursework?

Specializes in Stepdown . Telemetry.

I read your paper and I feel like it really missed the mark-you may have read through the concepts of nursing ethics without fully understanding what is meant by an ethical dilemma.

"If the patient did not receive Methergine, then she would lose electrolytes and water from the vomiting and the heavy diarrhea caused by the Hemabate and Cytotec. The loss of electrolytes would affect her heart by causing dysrhythmias, and the loss of water could affect her kidneys from dehydration."

This statement seems to be what your ethical dilemma was, but is not really a dilemma at all. The above drug is contraindicated due to risk of stroke possible death. I did a quick search on methrgine and it clearly states this is NOT to be given for pts with gestational htn. Safe and ethical practice is to NOT use this drug. If a doctor were to give it despite CLEAR guidelines it would be MALPRACTICE by putting the patient in direct harm. Since methergine was NOT a treatment option and correct practice was followed, no dilemma existed in the decision to not give it.

Also the concept of autonomy is misapplied completely in your paper. Clinical decision making is not done by asking which drug the patient wants when managing a dangerous situation. If a nurse did this, the ethical dilemma would be that this nurse is practicing way beyond her scope and her decison making makes her fitness for practice highly questionable.

Then a big chunk of the points were alotted to applying the ethical principals to your situation and you did not really do this. Also the stuff about the diarrhea was not related to the main topic - and its far reaching to say that it is an ethical dilemma.

When I saw you got 2/40 at first i was thinking: yeah that MUST be a typo…but after reading your paper I really think the grade was intentional. Sorry if this is harsh and blunt…You should talk to your teacher and have her explain her reasons and discuss this with you.

Shouldn't she have just given me a 0 then? There's no point in giving me just 2 out of 40 points which is a 5%. If my calculations were correct, it looked like she initially gave me 11.5/40 which is a 28.75% but then 2 days later, for whatever reason because it's not showing on Blackboard, changed her mind and replaced it with 2 points instead. Idk if this is fair, but I haven't received an email or notification from either her or the head instructor.

Shouldn't she have just given me a 0 then? There's no point in giving me just 2 out of 40 points which is a 5%. If my calculations were correct, it looked like she initially gave me 11.5/40 which is a 28.75% but then 2 days later, for whatever reason because it's not showing on Blackboard, changed her mind and replaced it with 2 points instead. Idk if this is fair, but I haven't received an email or notification from either her or the head instructor.

Perhaps your inability to distinguish the forest from the trees underlies your basic problem in your classes. As many times as people try to make a point, you insist on nitpicking the inconsequential while ignoring the big picture as well as the fine brush strokes in the picture. I dare say you have not received an email or a notification from anyone because, unlike you, these people are not dealing with work while on their holiday break. I would not be surprised if you get no response on Saturday or Sunday either.

If she said you passed, I would talk to her in person. I don't think you deserve '2' points for your assignment. You still came up with a topic. I would speak to her in person about that. If she didn't pass you, I would go to the dean. You are paying money.

Wow this is a pretty horrifying attitude. In what world do you get to move on in schooling that is designed to teach you to have people's lives in your hands in many cases just by paying money?

Shouldn't she have just given me a 0 then? There's no point in giving me just 2 out of 40 points which is a 5%. If my calculations were correct, it looked like she initially gave me 11.5/40 which is a 28.75% but then 2 days later, for whatever reason because it's not showing on Blackboard, changed her mind and replaced it with 2 points instead. Idk if this is fair, but I haven't received an email or notification from either her or the head instructor.

None of this matters because the point is that you did not understand the material and need to retake the course. Details aren't important, what is important is that you learn the material next time.

Specializes in OR, Nursing Professional Development.
Shouldn't she have just given me a 0 then? There's no point in giving me just 2 out of 40 points which is a 5%.

Assignments come with rubrics against which they are graded. Your instructor likely followed the rubric because it provides the guidelines of what gets points and how many.

If my calculations were correct, it looked like she initially gave me 11.5/40 which is a 28.75% but then 2 days later, for whatever reason because it's not showing on Blackboard, changed her mind and replaced it with 2 points instead.

If there isn't a specific grade posted in Blackboard, then you would have to know exactly how to do the calculations to find out your grade. Or, you could just wait until the grade is posted and know for sure.

Idk if this is fair, but I haven't received an email or notification from either her or the head instructor.

It's a holiday weekend. Respect the fact that your instructors have time off and most likely plans to be with family. You really need to let this go until school is officially back in session.

Yes I know, I'm just hoping it may be a typo because she kept my grade of 11.5/40 for awhile, a few days even, and then suddenly changed it the day before Thanksgiving.

Specializes in Pedi.

Ok, what you describe is not an ethical dilemma.

You think that diarrhea is worse than a stroke? When a medication is contraindicated, it's not offered to the patient for symptom control. Fluid and electrolyte losses from vomiting and diarrhea are easily replaced with IV fluids and electrolytes that do not carry the risk of stroke.

Sorry but I think the failing grade on this assignment was justified.

Examples of ethical dilemmas in L&D, postpartum, NICU:

Pregnant woman has a medical emergency prior to viability and is declared brain dead. If she is removed from life support, the fetus will also die. Family wants to withdraw support but, though prior to viability, it is past the point in the pregnancy where state law allows abortion. The medical team interprets this to mean that the brain dead woman must remain on support to be, effectively, a human incubator. There was a case such as this in Texas a few years ago.

Pregnant woman goes into labor and the fetus is in distress. The woman says she didn't know she was pregnant. An emergency C-section will be necessary to save the baby. Woman refuses to consent. ER featured a case such as this back in the day. It's a far fetched scenario but would represent an ethical dilemma.

Lots of possibilities with pre-term birth. Woman in labor at 22 weeks 5 days gestation and she/partner want everything done to save the baby but hospital policy is that they don't resuscitate prior to 23 weeks and 0 days.

Baby born at 24 weeks gestation and is resuscitated but goes on to have many complications- bilateral IVHs, NEC, inability to wean from vent. Should this baby be trached?

Blood transfusions with Jehovah's witnesses frequently come up in this category. A hemorrhaging woman in labor refuses to consent for a blood transfusion. Both she and the baby will die without it. In general, adults cannot be forced to consent to transfusions for themselves but if a baby was born to JW parents and the baby needed a blood transfusion but parents wouldn't consent, a court order would be obtained to administer it.

Thanks for the examples but these were obvious ethical dilemmas. I couldn't really think of anything obvious as the ones you presented here. :(

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