Am I an ogre? Or is it just me? - page 5

Alright, after several months of posting here in relative peace, I am now about to have people angry with me. I can feel it coming on.... Is it just me, or are all of these "help me!!" threads... Read More

  1. by   emily_mom
    Students today don't know how to use a book. If it's not available online, it's not anywhere. I admit I use the internet for many things r/t school, but I also know how to use a textbook.

    Maybe we should refer them to Textbooks: Friend or Foe 101 or It's Not Just A Paperweight 200.

    Just my opinion!

  2. by   Rena RN 2003
    i don't think that anyone on this bb should ever ask another question and we should all just give group (((hugs))).
  3. by   EmeraldNYL
    Back when I was in school, young whippersnapper, I had to walk twenty miles through the blistering heat/freezing snow/torrential rain, all with no shoes on my feet....

    I'm a student, and trust me, I know how to pick up a book-- that's why my GPA is so good. People who just look for handouts usually don't get good grades. But I think it's great if students can bounce ideas off each other, AFTER they do some research on their own.
  4. by   Love-A-Nurse
    oh my, can you just not read and or not reply to the said thread?

    i do understand, but many of threads on various boards here are redundant, or just a click away from some type of resources, or the dail/push botton on one's phone.

    this is an oulet and i believe some may post on another board besides the nursing student's board, to get ideas, moral support, sites, etc. from experience nurses, or truly don't know what to type in, as many things come up when searching the web. simply because students may ask for help does not mean some have not tried for themselves first.

    well, if this deters others from seeking someone to do their work for them {as implied], your point is well taken, but if it hinders someone from asking valids questions, then what?
  5. by   Stargazer
    <Sigh> I will try one more time to clarify.

    I don't believe anyone here has a problem with offering help if the person asking demonstrates that they have attempted to some research on their own first, or at the very least, have done some critical thinking before turning here for help.

    Saying, "I need to write a paper, and here are several topics I'm considering--which do you think would best suit the assignment?" is very different than saying, "I need to write a paper. Help me come up with a topic!"

    Saying, "I looked up this drug, and I'm confused--the side effects and drug interactions seem contradictory" is very different from saying, "Does anybody know anything about this drug? I've never given it."

    As I said, it's not just students, and it's not just on this board. It both worries and frustrates me to see how many people, particularly actual and potential nurses, in cyberspace and real-life, who do not seem to have even the most basic problem-solving or research capabilities. But show me that you at least attempted to find some answers yourself first, and I will gladly go out of my way to help you (that's the generic "you").

    And I agree that it would be lovely if people could be arsed to do a search first before starting a new thread on the exact same dozen or so topics that get new threads started on them every single week like clockwork, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for that one.
  6. by   dianacs
    And I agree that it would be lovely if people could be arsed to do a search first before starting a new thread on the exact same dozen or so topics that get new threads started on them every single week like clockwork, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for that one.
    I'm okay with that one...sometimes someone--new or old--puts a new spin on the same old issues. But yeah, I put a lot of work into my own school assignments; I'm not doing anyone else's in addition. Nor will I assist anyone with what to say on the nsg school application. I got burned already on that one. And the "s&p" threads--sorry if you've been wronged, go see an attorney!
  7. by   Love-A-Nurse
    stargazer, your points are well taken, i assure you, personally that is.

    i could really understand the need to say, "i am tired of these post" if the posts were addressed to a particular person/s, otherwise, it seems that it is directed at any one, and it does not mean any one has to reply. can you see what i am saying.

    why tear down those who seek from some one they don't know because they may be eating alive by those surrounding them for answers.

    how can one get information from their book, for example, if they aren't sure of what to do?

    does it mean they are stupid, no, it means one realize i want to know so i will seek to find some kind person to help.

    we all have been in some type of situation that took us searching for answers only to find the answer was near us all the time.

  8. by   RNIAM
    Who knows the answer to this one? I am a student and made the deans list last semester. I know how to read. I know how to write. I can look things up in books. What I can't stand is blanket statements lumping everyone in the same basket! If I have something to offer I will, if I don't; I won't. I have been told this alot when dealing with this bb, if you don't like it don't look.
    Have a good one.
  9. by   nursing 101
    I just wanted to say and I know that I might sound ignorant for this one, I didn't know about the search engine on this site until maybe after 10 or more post. But as soon as I learned about it I would look up any info needed before I posted a thread. So that's why I'm not harsh when newcomers ask questions like: does anyone know a good Microbiology site? or where can you get textbooks that are cheap?
    The next thing is that some people just come for a few days so when they finally come back they don't know if certain things were already asked or posted. Since I started visiting this site the longest I've been away was probably 5 days (because of exams). I might not post but I always browse and read certain threads just to keep myself updated.
    I know it;s annoying when we ask questions but please be patient with Because no matter how many of these venting threads are posted there's always gonna be the newbie that will come with the same questions. Not to answer is the only good suggestion I can come up with.
    I love this site because I learn alot specially when my questions are answered. And we love them more coming from you guys because you guys have the knowledge that we are striving for.
  10. by   nursbee04
    I am a student, and I get your point. Yes, many of the posts are repetitive, and some of them do ask unbelievable things.

    But please remember that most of the students here can read, we certainly know how to use a book, we are creative and we work really hard, we just don't post silly questions w/o trying to answer them on our own. We're out here, I swear we are!!

    Just sticking up for the literate students
    Last edit by nursbee04 on Jan 17, '03
  11. by   shelby88669
    i have a question--could you tell me how to do med calculations?? haha just joking i am a first semester student and i like being able to get advice from someone whos already been through what im about to face--but i do beleive in doing my own work although i have asked for help and advice on here--i sure didnt know it buggged so many of you but it is nice to know there are so many of you that like to help--ive had my nose in my books since i got them--and all i can say after the first week is WOW!! when im a 2nd or 3rd semester student --i will be happy to help someone thats in my shoes right now--i agree with you though i wont do their work for them--have a great semester everyon
  12. by   Loubell RN 2B
    I am a student and just doing general ed and pre-reqs right now but I would not ever think of asking questions at this bb before researching it myself prior to the post. I know that you are going to get some that will and are doing this but my opinion is to just skip over the post and do not reply. With this amount of posters in one place, you are bound to have this happen. Maybe if they read this post, they will think twice before doing it... It certainly makes me think twice about what questions I will post to the board...

    Don't let it put your panties in a wad.......

  13. by   MelRN13
    This post was initially on a different area of the board but I asked if we could get a copy of it here........I thought it would be useful for all of us.