"C" Students - page 3

i have an instructor for nutrition who is a nun, rn, bsn, msn and she stated today that some of her best students have been "c" students. because the "c" students try harder she said. i've... Read More

  1. by   Love-A-Nurse
    originally posted by mkue
    i had a ph.d for an elective course who didn't care if you showed up, worked your butt off, participated in class, went the extra mile on papers, if you weren't a "male" you were lucky to get a "c".

    he was not only a ph.d, he was also the "chair" of that particular department so basically he told us all upfront the first day of class that all complaints would be addressed to him. none of the males ever complained. finally the nursing dept. asked students not to take his course, to take another instructor after many complaints, but not by any males.

    if i did "c" work then i deserve a "c" but i will not tolerate the gender bias thing and it does exist in higher education, as with many other prejudices. just because there is a ph.d behind the name, doesn't mean jack.....

    sorry to go off on a tangent... one bad apple shouldn't spoil the whole bunch !
    is he still there? my stars!
  2. by   Agnus
    oooboy! A lot of generalizations here. Get a grip! This lady just asked an inocent question.

    Do you have no more confidence in yourself than to feel threatened everytime someone expresses an oponion. Is it really necessary to twist this into something it was never meant to be.

    I would not trust the valdictorian of my class to nurse my dog. Why? Because Basic nursing care ie. baths, toileting, ADL's, picking up after herself are beneith her. She looks down on those who had less than an A agerage or said school was hard.
    If she has so little understanding of her fellow student, CNA's etc then where does she place the patient? Apparently she never heard of primary nursing nor wil she ever experience the sheer joy of tenderly laying hands.
    Yea, some c students are lazy, some A students are too, some A students are great nurses so are C students. ETC.

    I think this teacher was saying that it is not an acedemic grades that makes you a good nurse. If the only good nurses were A students do you think the standards would be where they are? A c student in nursing school is not the same as a C student in any other field. We have very high standards. C is not = sub standard nor failure. C is average. Sorry to disappoint anyone, but the majority of people, nurses included, fall in the category of Average. Do you not understand a bell curve? Average is not bad. For all you Mensa types (or those who fancy themselves as such) There is such a thing as an educated fool. shees!

    The fact that you may not have the highest grades in school is not a bearing on what you will do with that out of school. You will continue to grow and learn all through your career. It is this that will make you great. Perhaps, she meant that C students understood that they have much to learn, better than those to whom acedemics came easily at first.

    It took me 30 years to get though nursing school. Why? because there were other things that I had to learn first before I could learn what I needed to be a good nurse. I finally graduated with an A in all my nursing classes but one. Did that make be a brilliant nurse? No, I am still learning. I know some great nurses who were A, B, and C students in school. I also know some in every category that I would not trust with a broom and dust scoop.
    School is just a start. It is not a measure of who you will become. Enjoy your accomplishments A, B or C. It is not the be all, end all. It is just one step in the process of becomming. We all learn different things at different rates in different order, in different ways. :kiss The question is not what is your grade. But what have you learned and what have you learned lately.
    Last edit by Agnus on Aug 9, '02
  3. by   Agnus
    Originally posted by MsPurp
    This topic has been brought up here before.
    At the risk of being flamed :angryfire my feeling is that this is said to make substandard students feel better about themselves.
    Sorry, but its my opinion. I don't feel like a C student is more capable of taking care of a person than an A student, and I don't appreciate being made to feel that my clinical capabilities are less because I happen to have an A average.
    Certainly there are students who excel in one area over the other, that being classroom or clinical, but overall I think the critical thinking necessary to becoming a good nurse is gleaned both from academics and clinical experience.
    No one can make you feel anything. You compliment folks when you give them credit for having that kind of power over you.
  4. by   Agnus
    Originally posted by CATHYW

    In my opinion ( and I am NOT throwing flames here) MOST C students are lazy.
    Oh, really! no flames!
  5. by   delirium
    Originally posted by Agnus

    No one can make you feel anything. You compliment folks when you give them credit for having that kind of power over you.
    I'm sorry, did I sign up for a free daily self-help cliche? I don't remember doing so.
  6. by   Agnus
    MsPurp, to quote you, "Sorry, it's just my opinion."
    Last edit by Agnus on Aug 9, '02
  7. by   delirium
    Except I believe I spelled opinion correctly.
    But perhaps I am merely fancying myself a Mensa type.
  8. by   live4today
    My, my, my.....HOW THE THREAD TURNED!

    Think I'll steer clear of the flaming heads, and go to bed now while I've got a reasonably clear head....free of flames, and nice things to say about everybody. Sweet dreams everyone! See ya TA - MARR - EE!!! :kiss
  9. by   Agnus
    I humble myself to you. You are just too clever for me!
  10. by   CATHYW
    If you read the next sentence, it would say, "because I was a "C" student in high school."

    Been there, done it the lazy way, know that "most" C students (exactly as I worded it) could do better. I WAS one, once, and I've gone to school with a lot of them.

    Did I hit a nerve, or something?
  11. by   lindagio
    Well, I actually got mostly "C's" in nursing school. Our average was 75 whichwas considered a C. I recieved two clinical exellence rewards while in school and I was also the president of my student nurse association. I don't know why Ialways got a C but I found it to be an enriching experience because I learned from my mistakes on exams. I am definately a hands on learner. I also have two children 5and 7 and a husband that was somewhat supportive but not always. Throughout my core classes I maintained a 3.5 GPA but nursing school dropped it down. My last semester I did get 2 B's so I think I finally grasped how to take nursing exams and I am waiting to take the NCLEX, which brings another topic as to everyone needs to pass the same exam so they must be compitant enough to practice.
  12. by   Agnus
    Originally posted by CATHYW
    If you read the next sentence, it would say, "because I was a "C" student in high school."

    Been there, done it the lazy way, know that "most" C students (exactly as I worded it) could do better. I WAS one, once, and I've gone to school with a lot of them.

    Did I hit a nerve, or something?
    It was the remark about the C studuents you went to nursing school??!! with were smoking drinking and doping that got me. That did hit a nerve as I know people who worked hard got C's and did not fall in this catagory. I thought it an unfair generalization. As much a generalization as the original poster's instructor made.

    By the way I've been feeling rather crotchety lately expecially at the time I made these posts.
  13. by   Albirdie
    All of this stuff about 'C' students really gets to me. Mostly because I either make 'A's or 'C's. There is no in between for me. I just started nursing school this semester and I am loving every second of it. I haven't taken my first test yet, but I know that even if I don't receive an 'A' on it I know that I am learning. I am learning how to take care of patients the proper way. Just because I may not get a great grade does not mean that I won't be a great nurse. I get major test anxiety. Can't figure it out, but I do. When it comes to doing vitals with my instructor listening at the same time, it is a breeze. You just have to do your very best and make sure you know how to take care of patients without making mistakes. I would be willing to bet that as long as you are taking good care of the patients nobody is going to ask you, "And what kind of grades did you get in nursing school?"