Quote from br107
What does this mean? Is it a reaction to the quality of ABSN grads they've hired in the past? And is this just a local thing or have ABSN grads gotten a bad reputation everywhere?
I'm with you guys about digging in, finishing sooner, with a higher degree, and getting back to work sooner. But I do wonder about the drawbacks of finishing the program twice as fast as is traditional...
It's not twice as fast, not necessarily. Unless it's one of those INSANE twelve-month ABSNs (which do frighten me on many levels), it's not even in the ballpark. Sometimes I think people really see it that way (again, the 12 month ones aside) - that "accelerated" equals "shortchanged" across the board.
I'll use my program as an example.
Duke requires the following prerequisites (pasted straight from our website):
* Human Anatomy & Physiology (6 - 8 credits)
* Microbiology + lab (3 - 4 credits)
* Basic Statistics (3 credits)
* General Psychology (3 credits)
* General Sociology (3 credits)
* English Composition (3 - 6 credits)
* Completion of course in growth and development and a course in general nutrition strongly recommended
I had stats, psych, soc, English comp, and growth and development in my bachelor's degree. I took A&P and micro (and 2 semesters of chem, because I wasn't sure where I'd be going, and plus I had to kill time for classes to become available) at a community college here. (I have a year of organic, but that's another story - some silly notion that I'd enjoy pharmacy school.) The first two years of ANY BS degree is comprised of basic courses common to every major, as we all pretty much are aware: a math, two semesters of English, and a science are generally required, and then electives (like some sort of literature, a language, some sort of "perspectives" course, a fine art, history - all that stuff we all had to take to get a BS). I had all that stuff when I got my BS. I also had abnormal psych, some advanced psych and soc courses, two semesters of religion -a whole bunch of stuff that I took to fulfill my first degree's requirements.
Anyone has that kind of stuff when they get a BS. I picked up the sciences I didn't have and then applied.
This is copied from UNC-Chapel Hill's website (the third is RN-BSN, which doesn't apply here):
The School of Nursing at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill offers an undergraduate program of study designed to provide students with the knowledge, skill, and understanding necessary to function effectively in all areas of professional nursing.
The curriculum, leading to the Bachelor of Science in Nursing (BSN) degree, offers three options for study:
1) 24-Month Option which includes two years of lower-division courses in the General College and approximately two years of upper division courses in the School of Nursing
2) 14-Month Accelerated Second Degree Option for students with a previous bachelor’s degree
See where it says "approximately two years of upper division courses in the SON"? (I added the bold type.) In reality, when you literally count out how many months the "traditional" students spend in UPPER LEVEL NURSING COURSES, it's nineteen months. In fact, it's probably a bit LESS than that, if you counted actual class days and not just calendar months.
All I am taking at Duke is upper level nursing classes. I'm in school for sixteen months. In seventeen calendar months, I have about a month off total. YES - there are some one year programs out there, and that is precisely why I didn't attend one. That, as you say, is frightening. But not all accelerated programs are that short.
ALL the accelerated programs, regardless of their length, are focusing on the core, upper level nursing classes. Quality, I'm sure, varies - but we all know that's true across the board, which is why you have to select a school carefully at ANY degree level. Remember that the number of hours one spends in specific classes is set by that state's BON, and if a school wants accreditation, they have to show that those requirements are being fulfilled. Accelerated programs are held to the exact same standards as the other programs (we had a BON rep in our class today - it's Duke's five year review - and I have this straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak).
I don't feel I'll be any less prepared than a 24 month graduate is going to be who graduates this December when I do. By December (299 days 'till pinning!!!
) I know all the sweat, tears, fright, and - let's be honest - cash (which you will hemorrhage no matter WHAT program you choose - ADN, either BSN, or diploma - they'll all leave you equally broke) will have been worth it.
Yes, the pace borders sometimes on sheer insanity. I read more than most first year law students (which was confirmed for us by a classmate's friend, who actually IS a first year law student), and I stress and I worry and I get scared that I'll pass out the next day in clinical. But so does everyone else, regardless of what type of program they're in. And I'd worry regardless of where I was. We all do, and we all will.
We're ALL going to be terrified on that first day with our shiny new licenses, regardless of the length of our programs. And I feel like that, for the most part, we'll all be just fine. BONs will deal with subpar programs individually, be they accelerated or traditional.
Now, back to pharmacology....