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local school does majority (not all) of exams as group tests. the students break up into groups and the members of the groups work together on the test. if this isn't common in nursing school, i don't think i will go there. so how common is this?

Regarding the 2 previous posts: How does experience as an RT make one a better nurse?

Different strokes for different folks I guess. When I was an EMT student doing my hospital rotation, I spent most of my day with the triage nurse. I thought the fast pace of things was pretty cool. I think I could do it all day, everyday. No problem.

UCSF, UCLA, Cal State LA, Western. Cal State Long Beach has one but the horror stories of dealing with their secretary turned out true to life for me. Save yourself a headache and avoid them. Good luck.

OMG this reminds me of last night when I bought a can of Pringles and when I sat down to eat them, turns out the package had already been opened and like 1/4 of the pringles were missing. ***??? I threw it out and I was pissed. Luckily I had bought 2 cans. (On sale 10/$10). Sorry, I know my dollar loss is not as big as the original posters but her story about being ripped off sparked something in me and man I had to let it out.

Oh yeah I can totally relate. I have a Bachelor's in an unrelated field and nearly finished a minor in psychology before I decided it wasn't worthwhile. The point is I have many social science classes under my belt. But the nursing programs dont want to waive the sociology and lifespan psych requirements for me. Sociology is such a waste of time in my opinion and lifespan psych is somewhat a waste of time (for me). I enrolled in soc and dropped twice two semester in a row because I couldnt take it. Lifespan I enrolled in once and dropped. So I still have to take both. It's torture knowing I have to take them. EASY CLASSES but ugh!!! Hopefully I have the patience to knock out at least one of them during summer school.

Say for example I know which hospital I want to work in or which type of hospital (size, demographics, etc). Would I have an advantage over other new grads if my program did clinicals at that hospital? What about at a hospital similar to it? Some people, not hiring personnel mind you, say just graduate get your RN you'll get a job anywhere blah blah... But if I try to put myself in a hiring manager's shoes it makes sense to to me to answer my questions with a yes. But then again I've never been a manager in a hospital.

in what way is county disorganized?

i read that other thread the yesterday and omg... some high and mighty e-msn student basically bashed adns for 5 pages, and also insulted the bedside nursing profession (i see the post is now deleted but he/she said called it "glorified waitressing") along with the physical therapy profession. iirc, she said that she would pursue a don position upon graduation while adns could do fill the "glorified waitressing" positions. i thought this was obvious to everyone but i see some people need a reality check. or maybe i do. not. in my professional opinion (as a former marketing analyst and marketing manager), the e-msn is nothing more than a marketing gimmick to attract a certain population into bedside nursing to help meet the demands of the nursing shortage as well as $upply univer$itie$ with $tudents/revenue. am i wrong? it's my understanding that the main qualification for an emsn grad is bedside nursing. further it seems ridiculous to me, that someone with a bachelor's unrelated to nursing, zero years of nursing work experience, and only one year of nursing studies (to qualify to sit in on the nclex), plus another year of studies will be on equal footing as traditional msn nurses (read real msns) for any clinical, administrative, or any other type of nursing position. in that case, sure it's a good thing for someone who doesn't want to go "backwards" from a bachelor's degree to an associate degree. believe me i understand the need for status. but how much pride can you have in a "master's" degree in nursing after one year of studies equal to a lowly adn program and only another for research. the cost and effort for the e-msn are substatial, esp compared to a community college adn program. the payoff/benefit is only marginal in terms of nursing skill and earning power. the only real benefit is that an emsn grad can list "master's degree" on his/her resume; but it will be a given for practical purposes that the emsn is not equal to the real msn. "status symbol" aside (if you can honestly call it that), the smart one is the adn who got the same position and skill for a fraction of the cost, with a lot less stress. discuss.

also cal state la. i think azusa has one. maybe western in pomona too. csu long beach - yeah they have one. but i would never consider going there. their secretary or whoever the person they have that's supposed to help you with absn and emsn admissions was very confused and very unhelpful. rude too. and wrong. (i ended searching for the answers i needed myself). red flag, imo.

anyone have experience with mount st mary's (msmc) accelerated program?

i am a student considering psych nursing. how does the pay compare to other areas of nursing such as med-surg, er, icu, etc?

Good one. I may use that. Although "male nurse" doesnt bother me.

We might have similar interests. What is RES?

study groups are a waste of time for me. like you guys, i learn better on my own. this is definitely a gender thing. girls tend to meet in groups for just about everything, esp. for dealing with anything difficult. can't site any studies myself but i've had psych profs mention studies on such issues especially with regards to the work place. predominantly females in nursing school- female students, female administrators, female instructors --> result: female perspective dominates