Why the nurses get no respect...

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Hello, everyone.

I know this topic has been severely beaten, but its not dead yet because so many of us are still talking about it. I thought I would share my opinions and I invite everyone to comment, whether you agree with me or not.

I'm working on a BSN degree, which I expect to complete by summer '04. After that I intend to work as an RN for a year and then apply to grad school to do the CRNA program. Yes, I'm one of 'those' people who went ahead and did a nursing degree despite all the MANY negative things I heard about nursing as a career. BUT... I've been working as a volunteer in a local hospital, and from what I have observed, it IS true that physicians and NPs look down on nurses. But, it is also true that a lot of what has happened to the nursing profession is due to the attitudes and behavior of some of the nurses themselves.

First of all, I can tell from talking to some of the nurses at my hospital that they barely made it through nursing school and probably passed the NCLEX by less than a hair. Even as a student, I am shocked at some of the things I've seen some RNs do and at some of the questions they ask...stuff that any first year nursing student should know. If even I, as a nursing student, can observe these things, then surely the doctors also do. And, this is one of the reasons some of them think most nurses are idiots and little more than patient care techs. I've only been a volunteer in this hospital for 6 months and already I can tell the good nurses from the bad ones.

Another thing I've observed is that many nurses complain, complain, complain...about everything and wherever they can find an audience. They complain about the pay, the patients, the doctors, the administration...you name it. I've always wondered why these people got into the profession in the first place. They always use the same cliches...Plumbers make more, landscapers make more, etc. Anyone who really loves nursing will agree that it takes a lot more to be a nurse than it does to be a plumber or a gardener. For one thing, to be a good nurse you have to care more about helping people than about making a buck. In fact, to be really good at any profession you have to care more about your competence and reputation than about making a lot of money. I think a lot of nurses don't understand this.

I've seen some nurses who're so miserable when they come on the floor most times that I wonder why they bother. I've always believed that if you don't like what you're doing then you should find another way to make a living and stop creating more stress for yourself. I'm not yet an RN, and obviously as a volunteer I'm not making ANY money from helping take care of people in the hospital, but its experience that I'll need later and I don't get stressed out by it because I actually like helping people.

Also, some nurses don't take themselves seriously but they expect doctors to respect them anyway. In the old days, nurses used to wear immaculate white uniforms that were ironed, and they also wore clean white shoes. They wore conservative and neatly groomed hair, short cut nails, and they were spotless all around. Nurses were in very much the same supporting role back then but doctors did not look down on them the way they do now. Everyone used to look up to that spotless white uniform as a symbol of health and authority, and nursing used to be one of the most highly respected careers.

But look at what's happened. SCRUBS!!! In the ugliest and most shocking colors and prints, and with a pair of smelly, dirty sneakers to match. Not to mention the outrageous hairstyles and the long, acrylic fingernails to match. Compare the matronly-looking nurse from the 1950s in her glorious white uniform to today's nurse in his/her cheap cotton scrubs. Which one looks more like a circus act? Which one looks more like a healthcare professional? And we're wondering why people don't see nurses as professionals!!! Yes, appearance matters, and to prove it, put a lab coat on any nurse and throw a stethescope around his or her neck and see whether most patients won't assume that she/he is a doctor.

Then there's attitude. I've seen nurses who flat out refuse to go back to school to learn new stuff, always holding on tight only to what they know. They resist change and complain when they have to learn new technology that comes into the hospital. Some of them love to stand around backstabbing each other and gossipping, and they say the nastiest things about other nurses who take their work seriously.

I encourage anyone who's thinking about going into nursing to volunteer a few hours each week in a hospital and watch how the RNs and the LPNs do their stuff, just to get an idea of what to expect from the career. If after doing that you still feel like giving nursing a try, then just do it and stop paying attention to other people who say negative things about nursing. Every career has stress, and very few people you ask (no matter what profession they're in) will ever say they make "enough" money. I don't think nurses will ever be paid "enough" money for what they do, but one thing I've learned is that nursing is absolutely the wrong career choice if you're doing it just for the money.

I think nursing can once again become a respected profession when some of us in the field start to respect ourselves and each other a lot more than we do now.

I'll tell you why nursing gets no respect.

1. Nurses don't demand respect. I've seen doctors ***** nurses out just because the nurse went to the resident because the intern wouldn't answer his page. The nurses just stood there quietly while the intern kept *****ing her out. Then when I asked her how she felt about it, she shrugged and said it was okay. I went ahead and talked to the resident and told what the intern had done. The resident was real cool and he went and *****ed the intern out for a good 10 minutes.

2. Nurses eat each other up. How can you respect your peers when your peers are the ones making trouble for you? I can honestly tell you that when a co-worker gets on my case I will get on her case. I'm not taking crap from anyone, I don't care if it's Jesus H. Christ himself. Give respect, get respect. Simple. If you write me up for something dumb like not labelling tubing, I'm gonna write you up for each blood smear on the linens and for each crease in the pad. It's sad that nurses have to be so petty with each other when there are other more important concerns to be address, such as the pt's sepsis. And as for that thread about writing up yourself, that's about the dumbest thing I've ever read. I've never seen a doctor write him/her self up, and they sure as hell do worse things than administer something IV instead of PO, or whatever the hell you people you screwed up on.

3. Nurses need to mandate more education. I'm sorry but this associate degree in nursing is bunk, especially when it's in the ICU. For those of you that think there isn't a difference, look again. I'm a nurse in the ICU with a BSN, and when I compare myself with the associate degree nurses, they don't even begin to compare. I've seen associate degree nurses do nothing about a-fib for hours without telling the doctor. When they give report, they say, "Well the pt's been like this when I received him." Also, I can't tell you how pathetic it is that an associate degree nurse with 2 years of education makes just as much money as an RN with 4 years of nursing. Look at any other sector, and you will see that education is proportionate to pay. Only in nursing does less education equal equivalent pay.

4. Nurses seem to be happy where they are. Our hospital just sent out a survey, and to my surprise, most (about 60%) of the nurses on my unit said they were happy with their pay. That's because they've been there for 10 years and get paid something like 30/hr, which I think is pretty lousy since we're in a world-renown medical center. Other hospitals in my area pay their starting graduates 24/hr. You mean to tell me that for 10 years' worth of work, you're only worth 6 bux/hr more? Southwestern Bell pays their utility people more than nurses, and these utility people don't do crap but lay down phone lines all day. You can't tell me that with all the knowledge that a "real" nurse has that a technician should get more pay.

Nurses need to start demanding more--from themselves and from the public. Unfortunately, I think you people don't understand the business sense of it all, and nursing will always be considered a "doctor's *****" field, where wiping ass and emptying urinals is the main job characteric. Sure it's nice to help others, but you can't help others unless you help yourself first, and if you help yourself first, that makes you happier at your job and that enables you to do your job better. I know a GI doctor who gets paid 420k a year. All he does is mess around with people's ass, but who cares? He's living in a million dollar home, driving a nice care, and takes very damn good care of himself and his family. He's happy at his job, but that's because he knows what he's worth. Maybe once we get more hetersexual males into the field, and get rid of his bull$hit about "helping people" the area of nursing will change. Transportation personnel help people too, but I don't see any of you rushing to transport patients around the hospital all day. I realize I'm a lone voice, so let the flaming begin.

Specializes in PACU.

Nurses are Dumb

"calm down! ":roll

I'm sorry, I missed the part where you mention what it is that you are doing to change the things that you find so irritating? (besides bashing your colleagues on a BB)

Its easy to complain and find fault with others especially when you youself admit to sinking low to play the very game that you say you despise! :rolleyes:

Gator

Specializes in Oncology, Cardiology, ER, L/D.

:rolleyes:

sniff....sniff...

Is it just me or does anyone else smell troll ass? :devil:

To Nurses are Dumb-

I appreciate that you see that things need to change, and I do agree w/ much of what you've said. But, Jeez!

Why such an attitude and the name?

Specializes in Obstetrics, M/S, Psych.

dave, this is getting old.

Navynurse, the smell has been quite noticeable for days!

When I was a Navy Hospital Corpsmen I Worked Hard and Got Respect!

And-

When I was an Emergency Medical Technician I Worked Hard and Got Respect!

And-

When I was a Surgical Technician I Worked Hard and Got Respect!

And-

When I was a RN, MS, OCN I worked hard and was magically tranformed into a "Failed Physician Homosexual" and got NO RESPECT!

But-

I am out of nursing now working as a Radiology PACS Engineer and have found RESPECT again.

What's up with that?

Very Respectfully,

-HBS

Specializes in Oncology, Cardiology, ER, L/D.

Oh yeah, I forgot about good ol Tony. Silly me!;)

Specializes in cardiac, diabetes, OB/GYN.

I have no problem with respect.....Anyone not respecting me has their own problems and they aren't mine...Nurses Are Dumb???Well, that sort of name doesn't command much more thought or respect than that....

Specializes in LTC,Hospice/palliative care,acute care.

:roll :roll :roll ROFLMAO!!!! hahhaheh... To Nurses are dumb---shouldn't that be "Oh wait a minute-I AM dumb,too" p.u....I smell it,too...troll azz....funky.

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