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Hi all-- I was in the chat room last nite and talked to a few people and got some pretty good advice but was trying to still process what would be the best thing for me to do. I am a new grad since... Read More

  1. by   hoolahan
    {{{{{Amy}}}}} just worry about you. To hell with what anyone else may think. I think many of us have been through depression on this BB, and even on meds. It does help. It also helps to talk. If the meds the doc gave you don't help, please follow up in a few weeks. Once you are feeling better, things will come into perspective. Right now you are so out of sorts, you can't think clearly. It will be easier to make those important decisions after you are feeling more settled. Take some quiet time while you are off. Write your feelings in a journal. Listen to some soft music and relax. I find that when I do that, it allows the answers to come to me, rather than me trying to find the answers.

    Take care. Let us know how it's going.
  2. by   mattsmom81
    Take a well deserved "sabbatical", 'just breathe', heal and give and get mucho hugs from hubby and kids!!

    I'll be keeping you in my thoughts and prayers, Amy!
  3. by   canoehead
    Hang in girl.

    Go out to the dump with a sledgehammer and smash something really good.
  4. by   AmyRN1227
    Hi all---
    Just an update. I'm feeling a bit better. Son is adjusting well at new school so that helps a ton. I called my manager today to tell her I won't be returning to work. Now I just have to write a resignation letter. Should I attach my doc's note to this letter? Do I send a copy to HR? Since I've never done this before, I'm not sure how to do it. Thanks!
  5. by   PhantomRN
    Yep, send the resignation with the docs note attached. Your manager should send a copy to HR, but I would also send a copy to them.

    Make sure you keep a copy for yourself.

    The resignation should be short and sweet. You do not need to go into great detail, just put her name up top and put todays date and state "As per our conversation on [date] I , Amy Doe, tender my resignation effective on [date]. State the docs note is attached.
  6. by   thisnurse
    great advice from phantom.

    YOU did nothing wrong. if this comes up in the future, so what.
    if the company that is considering hiring you doesnt want you because of what happened then its probably not a place youd want to work for anyway.
    amy, i got hurt at work lifting a patient. that was in october. i am still having pain and problems with my neck. in december i went for an independent insurance exam. first thing the doc said was...i see you had a drug abuse problem.
    years ago i was taking duragesic for pain. when i finally got the pain resolved and went off the patch i had withdrawl. i checked myself into a rehab hospital for detox.....VOLUNTARILY....
    THIS is what he was talking about. it wasnt drug abuse, it was a dependency ...there is a difference. i dont even drink dammit.
    went thru my pcp's records with him, there is NO mention in my chart of abuse. just dependency that had been resolved. you know amy, i even had a note of introduction in my chart from my surgeon stating the circumstances of my dependency.
    as a nurse you know how damaging something like that is in your records. and I DID NOTHING WRONG.
    the whole thing was manipulated by the case manager of the insurance company to discredit me.
    i never meant for you to not go to the doc for treatment if you needed it. i was only saying that if you are going there just for a note its better to quit without notice.
    im glad you got treatment.

    and it really pizzes me off, but doesnt surprise me that your mgr tried to turn this back on you and even offered you a position she knew you couldnt take so that she could cover her butt.
    its good you are leaving.

    be well amy
  7. by   Nebby Nurse
    Don't worry about getting another job after quitting with little notice. There's a shortage out there and the employers will be falling all over themselves to interview you. Many nurses change jobs as often as we change our PJ's. I've worked with terrible despicable nurses who were fired from one place and simply moved on to the next with no trouble. A concientious caring person like yourself will have no trouble finding a nich. When you do go on those interviews, find a point where you can sneak away from the interviewer and on the unit, ask a nurse or two how they like their job. Observe the staff and look for signs of severe stress. Once on an interview I asked a nurse how she liked it and she told me to run like hell for the nearest exit. And it really looked like a good place to work.

    Sounds like you had a major blow to your self confidence. A little trick I learned was to go into a new situation and pretend that you're an actor in a play. Play the role of a highly competent experienced ,self-assured nurse with all your "acting" ability and not only will you convince those around you but in the end you will convince yourself! It works!
  8. by   AmyRN1227
    Thanks for all the wonderful advice. I"m doing better. I've calmed down a bit and just trying to take one day at a time. All of your support really does help so I know I'm not the only one who's been through this. I have an interview tomorrow and hope it goes well.
    Hey Phantom---your idea for a resignation letter was great. But for effective date, should I put the date I spoke with her on the phone or two weeks from the doc's note? I spoke with her once on the 11th, when she offered me the days position. Got a doc's note on the 13th, and then called and got her voice mail on the 15th and told her I was resigning. OF course she never called back. Also should I send the copy to the HR manager of the person that hired me?
    I'm working on it today.....
  9. by   AmyRN1227
    When I interview and they ask me if they can contact the other hospital, the one I just left, what should I tell them? And when they ask me why I left there, should I be honest or just be vague and tell them "It wasn't a good fit". I don't want to sound like I'm bashing the hospital or that I'm a difficult employee.....
    THANKS>:kiss :kiss
  10. by   mattsmom81
    Amy, you will get different answers to your last question as we all handle things our own way---I would say yes and also provide the name of someone you know will give a good reference at that old facility if possible. Is there another RN or supervisor you trust at that facility who will provide a good reference for you? Instructors and/or preceptors? Providing several positive references will counter one negative one, IME, if this occurs. It may not come up at all but I always say pray for the best and prepare for the worst in any situation.

    Get a feel for the person interviewing you as well. You can share as much with him/her as you feel comfortable with, in a non-bashing, non emotional way. You're correct in not wanting to come off like a problem employee; you want to show your best side if you are pressed for details. You may be asked what you learned from this experience so formulate a good non blaming, professional answer there too....what did you learn about yourself? What are you looking for in a workplace? Would you handle things differently in retrospect? They will appreciate a mature response from one who is actively learning.

    A good way to appeal to your interviewer is to know some positives about their facility or share some glowing tidbits /references from friends or colleagues that led you to want to work at their facility. A little schmooze can go a long way if you know whatI I mean...LOL!

    You probably already know this stuff I just typed but you're still feeling a bit low and it hasn't clicked yet...it will!

    Good luck, Amy, and I hope you're feeling better every day.
    Last edit by mattsmom81 on Mar 17, '02
  11. by   fiestynurse
    Amy - Sounds like you have a workers compensation claim and should not have to use your accrued sick leave or vacation time for some much needed time off. Nurses file work comp claims all the time because of stressful and traumatic situations that they have experienced. Let Human resources know that you want this documented as a work comp issue. Good Luck!
  12. by   tracib
    Amy....yes, you should follow up with a "paper trail"...meaning letters to your manager and to HR, detailing the incident - with all the details. It's important to state it in a neutral manner...."just the facts, ma'am). Also keep copies for yourself.

    In this day of nurse shortages, I'm not too sure that references are checked as thoroughly as they might be, but don't burn your bridges. If you can make it through the two weeks notice period, so much the better.

    And DO talk to someone....starting with your personal physician. You need to take care of yourself now....with tender loving care. You are the important one....if you lose yourself, who do you have?

    Feel free to get hold of me any time....I care and I'm here for you.
  13. by   PhantomRN
    Amy, I think you could get away with using any of the three, but I would probably use the 15th.......especially since you have an MD note stating you do not need to go back anyway........it matters little.......your 2 week notice will be served at home.
    I would put as per our conversation on the 15th I am tendering my resignation effective 3/29. State the doc note is attached. Remind her that you will be unable to fulfill your scheduled days until you are released from the md.

    I handed in my resignation a little while back and it was a whopping 2 sentences long. All they want to see are the facts, anything else and you open yourself up.

    I would also follow up [once you have your next job] with a fact filled letter to their risk management and HR dept. Just to let them know what went on.

    Yes, Amy I have used the "it just was not a good fit" excuse for when I quit my first job after 6 weeks. My new manager asked me why it was not a good fit and I told her that "I felt uncomfortable with some things that were going on there."......then I let that hang in the air and she did not push and I did not offer any more information.