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OK, a bunch of us were standing in line waiting to get our pics taken for our hospice rotation. This one girl (whom I don't like) started yapping about what we should do if someone dies when we're there. She said that that would be a good time to actually do CPR on a real person. I said, "What?" and she told me that her sister was doing hospice and had a death. The hospice nurse was with her and told her she could try it if she wanted. She said that she could hear her ribs breaking. I flipped out....feeling physically ill. Isn't this desecrating a corpse? And how would you feel if that were your Mom, sister, or daughter??? I really let her have it, and some people didn't understand why I thought it was a big deal. Personally, I think it should (if it already isn't) be against the law. I mean, come on....have some respect for the dead. I also used to work for a funeral home and I asked my ex-boss about it. He said that if someone died like that and came in with a crushed rib cage, he would say something. He said that it could also hinder embalming and/or disfigure the torso.

So what do you think?? Did I flip out on her for good reason??? Or do you think I am over-reacting???

Kristy :crying2: :crying2: :crying2:

This subject came up in my class, they were thinking of actually doing CPR on dead bodies for training. We were really grossed out and thought it was disrespectful of the dead.

Specializes in NICU.

Wrong, very wrong.

Where is Vegas' purse when you need it?

I can't believe that anyone would even want to try that! I have done CPR for real, and it is no thrill. It actually wears me out physically and emotionally. That student needs b---- slapped, and so does the Hospice nurse. Like other posters have stated, I can't imagine any Hospice nurse that worth their weight in gold even thinking of this, much less let happen....:eek: If that family ever found out, heads could roll.....and with good reason. If someone would have done that to my MIL after her death there would have been no power on this earth that could have stopped me from opening the biggest can of whoop azz that Indiana has ever seen!! Would have not been a pretty sight....:(

Kristy, keep sticking up for your patients!!! Way to go!!

Specializes in Trauma,ER,CCU/OHU/Nsg Ed/Nsg Research.

Does your state have a Good Samaritan Clause? I'm not sure, but if your state doesn't have it, she could be open to civil action for negligence if she cracked the lady's ribs. I may be wrong on this, though.

Specializes in Home Health.

Kristi, you are right, she is WRONG. I am surprised she would brag about something like that, she could be kicked out of nursing school for illegal, and unethical practice!!! That's akin to announcing she smokes crack at home to understand the effect it has on her drug-addicted pt's, in my book.

Give her a copy of the Nurses Code of Ethics. And definitely talk to your instructor, we don't need nurses that badly!!!

I would consider such actions as assault and inform the authorities, including police. This sort of practice damages our profession.

Whether it is to practic or to actually try to revive it is ethically wrong.

People dead or alive are not here for us to use.

Even if you believe the person in no longer there when they die and you do not believe in an after life this is the person's remains and deserve respect.

If my body doesn't deserve respect because my brain function is not existant then I don't deserve respect at all because frankly I have some missing body parts now and am not whole.

If this was a hospice patient they are a DNR and you would be treading on leagal grounds if you tried to revive them.

Almost speechless with the Wrongness of it,Kristi,you did right.

I was a hospice nurse for 5y...never, never, never did anything like this remotely cross my mind, and we had nursing students, med students, interns, residents, etc.

I think she was making up the story about the hospice nurse "encouraging" her to try this. One of the biggest things hospice nurses advocate for is maintaining pt and family dignity; this violates everything that hospice nursing is about.

I'm not big on reporting people, but I think I might in this case. This girl is profoundly lacking in compassion, and I fear for the poor unfortunates who wind up with her to care for them. What does she do when she goes home in the evening...torture small animals?

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