Some questions for all the nurses - page 5

BSN nurses would you be happy with the LPN, RN, BSN etc, if You had something more to show for you degree? What I mean is this . What if when you graduated their was a destiction between a four,two... Read More

  1. by   mark_LD_RN
    i guess you not in the mood to correct me
  2. by   ldymedc
    I think that the total of the experience and education, the desire to continue to learn, and the ability to be humble enough to recognize that there is always something we don't know, is actually what makes a good medical PROFESSIONAL.

    Currently I am less than four months from graduating from an AD program in Nursing. I am a Paramedic/Firefighter with a Bachelor's degree in Emergency Medical Services management. I also have approximately 17 years of experience in the medical field, 13 of which have been in the streets (PM/FF).

    I have seen individuals come in with lesser certification perform extremely well in patient care, and I have seen others with higher learning not be able to perform even the basics. Desire and ability play an extremely important part of how well someone will survive and suceed.

    Don't get me wrong, I am a strong proponent of Education, and plan on getting my Master's Degree in a Nursing major. I just feel that simply a few more years of formal education does not mean that an individual will be a success, it simply gives more tools to reach it.
    Originally posted by mark_LD_RN
    you seem to have a classic case of BSN envy..
    Holy crap! That is freakin' hilarious! I have never seen such a self absorbed statement on these boards!

    you as well as all nurses should learn to respect each other and act as professionals
    Good way to do just that Mark... "HAHAHAHA! YOU ARE JEALOUS OF ME AND ALL THAT I HAVE! HAHAHAHA!

    i guess you not in the mood to correct me
    There's that professional behavior again, shining through!

  4. by   mark_LD_RN
    well heather sorry you toook offense but it was said in resonse to walmart ADn snide remarks. was just putting it in her context.

    for the record i am not self absorbed but do get sick and tired of people insulting BSN degrees and grouping everyone together. I am sure that if you took the time to read my other posts you would see what i mean.

    don't jump to conclusions see my other posts and see what i wrote in response to. i did not include you in there anywhere nor did i meantion all ADN,s . it was just aimed at one person so dont generalize it.

    you obviously did not read my other posts, those quotes are taken out of context.which some people seem good at doing
  5. by   MishlB
    Do the patients REALLY care what our name tag says...I think all they want is competent care and compassion. The degree status on our name tags is for us, an heirarchy that doesn't really benefit anybody. I am a new graduate PN, and I am going the ADN route, only for a larger choice in working environments. More theory does not always make a better nurse. We should all wear a name tag that says NAME....NURSE.
  6. by   MishlB
    I am in North Dakota, which has the Entry Into Practice laws. Used to be you had to be a 4-year RN to work here... Thank God they just changed. They now allow you 10 years to recieve your BSN, which I am sure will keep increasing, since I believe they are the only state that has this law.
    Originally posted by mark_LD_RN
    those quotes are taken out of context
    That's funny, because the last quote was the only sentence in the entire freakin post. How is that "out of context?"

    Originally posted by mark_LD_RN
    you obviously did not read my other posts
    Yes Mark, I did. You seem to throw around pretty heavy words quite a bit. Words like biased, hateful, resentful, ugly, twisted, etc. Pretty strong conclusions to draw from an online experience, don't you think? You've also accused people of resorting to name calling when they no longer have a valid argument. Please refer back to some of the words I listed above.

    See, as I sit here and read, I see that you will engage in a heated debate more willingly with a female than with a male. I could conclude that maybe you have a classic case of vagina envy?

    And BTW - there is no need for you to apologize to me. You did not offend me. I was merely pointing out the amusing statements you made, and their inconsistancies!

    Last edit by OBNURSEHEATHER on Aug 5, '02
  9. by   WalMart_ADN
    ugh. grow up mark. let it be. give it a rest. perhaps i had not "corrected you" because i have better things to do then read your insults directed towards me? maybe that's it? and just to clear things up...i made no snide remarks, and i never insulted your BSN degree. for chri**s sake mark, stop looking for an arguement. Maybe someday, after many more years of work on my lowly little less than mediocre don't deserve to work in the same field as you associates degree, i will be as cool as you and will be able to be one of those annoying people that refer to myself as a BSN nurse. that is, if i don't get fired for my apparent lack of knowledge as an associates degree nurse.
    so there are my snide comments for the evening. have a field day.

    Heather----vagina envy?? you are killing me :roll i love you girl!lol:chuckle
  10. by   angeliquedenise
    [ Renee, Are you sure your not a undercover lawyer...:chuckle
    awesome arguements!!
  11. by   mark_LD_RN
    i am glad to see you all have a little life in you,. heather i like your vagina envy theory! that is a good one. and the statement that i seem to only argue with females thats not totally true, i have debated dayray and other males on different threads see lowering the bar. the difference seems to be is that he will debate with out getting emotional and insulting. another reason may be that their are more females here so the odds are more likely i will debate a female.

    walmart ADN i am not looking for an arguement.I just posted in response to your inference that BSN were stupid.

    if you would read my other posts on topics similar to this you would see i have nothing against ADN at all and am just sick of hearing this arguement brought up over and over again. one gets very sick of hearing bull**** statements like all BSN have no skills, I had to teach a BSN grade to give IM injection,BSN only have and want management skills YADA, YADA , yada.

    yes heather the quotes were taken out of context. they were seperattted from the rest of the post. maybe i should not have brought the arguement down to walmart adn's level. that was my mistake to stoop to pointing out her insult. It is amazing to see how everyone gets so defensive. The BSN envy statement was meant as an a funny type of statement. did you not notice the LITTLE smily face after it. nad again heather it was not pointed at you or any other adn just the one i mentioned.

    as far as using stong words, i used them as that is what it seemed like from posts not meant as facts. everybody just take a deep breath and relax everthing will be ok.
    Last edit by mark_LD_RN on Aug 6, '02
  12. by   bagladyrn
    The one thing I don't see discussed here is the fact that for many of us, a BSN is, at least initially, an impossibility. Having put myself through an AD program by selling my house, working nights, while going to school days with a toddler at home (single mom), I never considered a 4 yr. program. Those complaining about the short staffing should consider this. Eliminating degrees other than BSN would cut out a whole sector of otherwise well
    qualified candidates.
  13. by   mark_LD_RN
    hey walmart ADN i am all growed up now, I just got got me some new toys i think i will go play