Nurses are Pathetic!! - page 8
I have been reading thread after thread on this forum and I have come to one conclusion. We are all a pathetic bunch. We take abuse that most other human beings would not put up with. We are... Read More
Mar 12, '07Quote from Baptized_By_FireI think we need to move beyond the original post and the use of the word pathetic. You're correct, there was no clarification to back up the claim of pathetic. The op recanted the word. See post 50 and 52. The op states " have not lost passion for nursing, just the whole process that makes it hard to do my job. "No, but if you start a thread saying that nurses are pathetic and deserve the abuse they get, then that's another thing. That's not venting IMO, that's taking out self-anger on others that you happen to see as pathetic abuse targets.
I only saw a couple "attacks." And I didn't see any clarification that would satisfy the "nurses are pathetic" claim.
What I did see was several people who don't allow themselves to be disrespected constantly, speak up. Some are the same people that have supported the OP in other threads (myself included).
Some people aren't willing to drink the kool-aid. I don't think it's meanness, it's just self-respect.Last edit by Tweety on Mar 12, '07
Mar 12, '07Quote from lorsterI'm trying to get us not to get hung up on words, such as your use of the word pathetic. So I'll contradict myself here and get hung up on a word in the post above.Babtized. We are to be pitied because we allow things that totally go against the grain of our profession such as abuse. It runs rampant in nursing. Can we all agree on that?
I don't think any of us are to be pitied. Sometimes it's our own bed to lie in and we have choices. As some have pointed out we can vote with our feet, and many do, they leave. Others like myself who are making a nice middle income that pays the bills, and getting other benefits, weigh the pros and cons and try to make a difference where we can and stick it out with some semblence of peace of mind.
I don't think the profession needs to be pitied. Although there is some pitiful behavior going on for sure.
Mar 12, '07Quote from lorsterThere is the crux of the problem for a lot of nurses. Nursing pays the best of anything else we currently know how to do.I have decided that as soon as I can afford to, I'm getting out.
I agree with most of what you said - except that years of being maltreated understandly results in nurses becoming homicidal. :uhoh21: :uhoh21: :uhoh21: Dear God, please quit before you even consider such a terrible thing. Quit and starve. Quit and go naked. Quit and become homeless, lose your car, check into a Psych ward. But don't harm patients because you don't take your lunch breaks. Please promise you will get some psychiatric/psychological help STAT. Go free through your employer's EAP if possible.
Also, please find another line of work. You are burned out, Friend.
Mar 12, '07Quote from rngreenhornROFLMBO:spin: :spin: :spin: :spin:Dude.... if you a going to bail, you should set your sights a little higher that Wal-mart.
Trust me I know... I use to work there. But, alas, I got fired... just because I refused to remove the "Wal-mart your source for cheap plastic crap" bumper sticker from my car. Huh... how unfair is that?
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Dude, we are a commodity. There is an incredible shortage of people with our license.
We wont' be for long. The schools are cranking out new nurses by the thousands and there will no longer be a shortage. There is no shortage even now, really, just a shortage of nurses who will work under unbearable conditions.
Mar 12, '07Quote from TweetyOK- I can concede to that. I guess I didn't find the replacement words all that great, either. But, you're right- they are better than pathetic.I think we need to move beyond the original post and the use of the word pathetic. You're correct, there was no clarification to back up the claim of pathetic. The op recanted the word. See post 50 and 52.
Mar 12, '07Quote from TweetyYes, well I didn't exactly care for "dysfunctional", "codependent" or "masochistic" either (see post 50). I am a nurse and I am none of those things. I am sure I am not the only one.I think we need to move beyond the original post and the use of the word pathetic. You're correct, there was no clarification to back up the claim of pathetic. The op recanted the word. See post 50 and 52. The op states " have not lost passion for nursing, just the whole process that makes it hard to do my job. "
Mar 12, '07Quote from TrudyRNSorry Trudy, but what is ROFLMBO ???ROFLMBO:spin: :spin: :spin: :spin:
Mar 12, '07The OP has the right to say what she/he wants within the parameters of good taste on this board. One of the purposes of this board is to get things off one's mind. Likewise, people can respond as they choose or not choose.
Try to look behind the purpose of the words before jumping to conclusions and blasting what a poster has to say. If everybody were taken to task by their supervisors at work or others close to them concerning all of their behavior and conversation; there would be a lot more discernable humility around, to include on this board. Nobody's perfect.
Mar 12, '07My beef is the way we are treated and that we keep taking it. I've been yelled at, hung up on, had charts thrown at me, been humiliated in front of patients, families, staff members and other doctors. And like many nurses out there, I have stood their and just taken it.
You say there arent many alternatives as to where you can work in your area. So then you have no choice but to fix it, no? Or do you not want to bother with the ruckus thats involved in change?
Mar 14, '07since starting in healthcare in 1974, learned that all the moans and groans won't move a mountain.... or a molehole.
networking together, documenting concerns and offering solutions, volunteering/participating on committees and learning when to pick my battles...assertiveness and advocacy for patient care have made small inroads and a few major ones in my practice settings. attending inservices on my dime and facilities let me know i was not alone re workplace issues and helped revive my nursing spirit many times over the years
compassion fatigue and burnout intesify apathetic feelings about oneself and practice setting. early mentoring in career (thank you pat, rn educator mhop 1979!) to recognize this condition in my self and colleagues, taught ways to intervene and learned my own cues when to destress.
no one will do it for you....in any office setting. someone needs to get the ball rolling to impliment change.
these links have great food for thought to chew on re changing ourselves and work place. 30+ years later still learning something new each day, enjoy nursing and affecting change at work and advocating here on bb.
nursingworld | ojin: nurse-physician workplace collaboration
one strategy to encourage positive teamwork is to avoid the blame game. nurses must stop blaming others for problems that exist in nursing (easson-bruno, ...
[s] compassion fatigue is triggered by the indirect trauma resulting from dealing with the tragedy of patient demise, viewing painful procedures, and experiencing the residual effects of exposure to human suffering...the cardinal signs of compassion fatigue are fatigue and lack of energy. [/s][s]
compassion fatigue is common in health care and occurs periodically for most professionals.
if unrecognized and unaddressed, compassion fatigue may progress to burnout, a state with more severe, long-term symptoms that are difficult to reverse. burnout has been described as a "syndrome of emotional exhaustion, depersonalization towards patients, and reduced sense of personal accomplishment"...
...avoid negative behaviors
it takes only one difficult personality to cast a pall of dominance, negativity, or distraction that derails collaborative efforts. fortunately, productivity and positivity can counteract debilitating influences and restore team productivity if there is consistent, courageous, and deliberate leadership. team-leaders must be mature, must value consensus, and must be unwilling to settle for less than productive dialogue.
one strategy to encourage positive teamwork is to avoid the blame game. nurses must stop blaming others for problems that exist in nursing (easson-bruno, 2003). it is counterproductive and unprofessional to blame physicians, administrators, organizations, or other nurses for the frustrating and disappointing aspects of present-day nursing. acting like an oppressed group will not encourage others to respect and trust nurses (roberts, 1999). willingness and courage to share the load of responsibility for patient outcomes will infuse the collaborative process with trust and respect. nurses create momentum when they are confident in their contributions and secure in their identities.
recognising workplace burnout nowadays this syndrome is being recognized as "work place burnout" and it is ... you may be led to blame your spouse or boss for the way you're feeling, ...
people experiencing work place burnout need to take time out of their busy lives to confront the underlying issues that are causing them stress. there is no easy fix - and the solution that you arrive at is most likely going to place you on a different life course than the one you have been traveling.
low morale and burnout; is the solution to teach a values-based ... [color=#6f6f6f]file format: pdf/adobe acrobat - view as html
in times of low morale and burnout in staff it is important to return to the. values that form the foundation of medical and nursing practice. these ...
nurse power: un-breaking the spirit of nursing
series of nurses stories troumphs and falls with goal to promote nursing and move the spirit.
resilient practitioner, the: burnout prevention and self-care strategies for counselors, therapists, teachers, and health professionals
truly believe in words of jnette:
change your thoughts = change your lifeLast edit by NRSKarenRN on Mar 14, '07
Mar 14, '07Lorster,
Honey, if you think a doctor yelling at you is bad, try working Walmart during the Christmas season. You will find whole new ways of hating the human race. Looking back at some of the things I had to endure as a dept. manager at Walmart makes me wish I had just punched some people in the face and been done with it. To this day, I shop online at the holidays because I actually get claustrophobic in the malls and Walmart.
As for what was written, there is some truth to Lorster's rant. But, for heaven's sakes people, GET OVER YOURSELVES!!!!
While lots of nurses are ranting and raving about how much they hate their job and how much they're getting screwed, your pts are the ones who are sick, getting really screwed by their insurance companies (they are the real evil in healthcare!), losing money from not being able to work, separated from their loved ones, in pain, and now they have an overworked, underappreciated, self pitying nurse standing over them with the enthusiasm of a prisoner in jail taking a shower. OH JOY!!!!
Most of us got into nursing because we love taking care of people and making them feel better. What happened to that? What is with this site these days? All I've seen is negativity. No one seems to have a sense of humor or compassion or duty or anything lately. I'm giving this site two weeks to get out of it's funk or I'm leaving it for a while.
And to those people who agree with Lorster about everything and can't seem to find something good at your job, LEAVE IT! Not all of us feel that way and quite frankly, I'd rather work short than hear a bunch of b*tching while I'm trying to do my job.