Nurses are Pathetic!!

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I have been reading thread after thread on this forum and I have come to one conclusion. We are all a pathetic bunch. We take abuse that most other human beings would not put up with. We are physically, mentally and emotionally abused by doctors, managers, patients, and families. We work ungodly hours, skip our much needed breaks without pay for months and years on end. And this goes on and on and on. The stories are endless. Then we are all shocked when a nurse who has had enough finally cracks and administers 32 vials of Dilantin and kills a patient. Is this so different than any other human being who finally after years and years of this abuse, just cannot take it anymore? I think not. When are we all going to stand up and demand decent pay, decent working conditions, and respect? Well, the answer is never because we are not a solid group. We have no autonomy or solidarity because we are a weak profession. We pit one against another. We ***** and backstab. We deserve all the abuse that is dealt to us. In nursing school, we are taught to make beds, empty bedpans and clean dentures. Instead we should get vast lessons in how to deal with some of the real issues that face us today. We are understaffed, overworked, pushed to the breaking point. But yet, the martyr instinct kicks in, we get up and go back and endure more of the same. When is enough, enough? When are we all going to come together and and start shouting about our working conditions and wages? We make less than a crew on road construction or a plumber. And look what we do. We are responsible for peoples lives. I went to work down the road as my current employer is union and I felt that maybe the non union hospital down the road would be a better place. Well, it is not, it is worse. 13 nurses have quit in the 6 weeks I have worked there. I won't renew my contract. It is just too unsafe. The hospital is all about profit at the expense of some great nurses. They even charge for an individual bandaid. It is ridiculous. I have decided that as soon as I can afford to, I'm getting out. I will no longer be a member of a profession that eats its young while at the same time, taking unwarrented abuse from unapreciative doctors that we bend over backwards for. Its not about making a living any more, it is about retaining some self respect, free of abuse by doctors, managers and other nurses who have nothing better to do than put a knife in your back the minute you turn around. At least at walmart I won't have to worry about making a life threatening mistake because I'm overwhelmed by what is required of me each day.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
I have been reading thread after thread on this forum and I have come to one conclusion.

As a note, mainly to others who may be visiting this forum, we do vent a lot of our concerns here at Allnurses and it is skewed towards the negative side of nursing for sure.

However, reading hundreads of threads and keeping things in perspective the negative threads and posts are far outnumbered by the positive and neutral posts.

Coming to the conclusion that nurses and the nursing profession is pathetic based on a bulletin board is not a good presumption to make in my opinion. I do however get discouraged and wonder sometimes when I read the posts here.

Obviously you're entitled to you own opinion and experiences and please feel free to express them. That's what we're here for. I appreciate your post. Nursing isn't pleasant and there are definately problems for sure.

As a note, mainly to others who may be visiting this forum, we do vent a lot of our concerns here at Allnurses and it is skewed towards the negative side of nursing for sure.

However, reading hundreads of threads and keeping things in perspective the negative threads and posts are far outnumbered by the positive and neutral posts.

Coming to the conclusion that nurses and the nursing profession is pathetic based on a bulletin board is not a good presumption to make in my opinion. I do however get discouraged and wonder sometimes when I read the posts here.

Obviously you're entitled to you own opinion and experiences and please feel free to express them. That's what we're here for. I appreciate your post. Nursing isn't pleasant and there are definately problems for sure.

Ok Tweety, I will change my wording, we are dysfunctional and codependent not to mention masochistic. Does that fit better? Look that up, it best describes nurses who put up with the crap we do. It is no longer about patient care, it is about all the steps you have to go through to accomplish that care. And traveling to another hospital will not help if it is the hospital you are trying to get away from. I live in a rural area so don't have a lot of choices out there so I go 140 miles one way. The travel hospital is so set on making sure the patient gets charged for every single item (yes, bandaids are an individual charge item) that the nurses spend all day scanning meds and bands and logging on and off the computers that are down much of the time because they are old and slow and some don't work and there are not enough but you cannot do anything with the patient, until you scan them. At least I'll be proficient at that when I get to Walmart. I realy don't hate this profession, just the way we do it. I have been doing this for 18 years and I've developed a routine and I'm competent at my job but I want nurses to have more autonomy. That doesn't happen here and I'm jealous of nurses who do because they work in places that allow that through policy. We can't put calmoseptine on someones butt without an order. You would think in 2007, that would be a comfort or clinical decision. Dr Offices pay half as much but talking to the nurses there, the chaos and job satisfaction are about the same for half the money, why bother.

Specializes in Ortho, Med surg and L&D.
I have been reading thread after thread on this forum and I have come to one conclusion.

... Well, the answer is never because we are not a solid group. We have no autonomy or solidarity because we are a weak profession.

... We are understaffed, overworked, pushed to the breaking point. But yet, the martyr instinct kicks in, we get up and go back and endure more of the same. When is enough, enough? ...

SmilingBlueEyes had the better descriptive, Apathy.

Your leaving is apathy.

If you stay and speak out, rather than berate yourself andyour fellow nurses and tell them they deserve what they get, then maybe you can be a part of the "professionalistic consciousness raising". Sorry but that was the phrase that fit right now.

Gen-the line about air masks on a plane...putting one on yourself first before you help another...lets mask up!

Apathy is a good way to state this too but I have not lost passion for nursing, just the whole process that makes it hard to do my job. Yes, we need to adapt to change because health care and its delivery are changing but I cannot be in 7 rooms at one time. that is how many surgical patients I had to myself last week. My care greatly lacked and I went home feeling inadequate to do my job. This is not what I want to do for the next 20 years before I retire. And maybe some of you enjoy 7 surgicals, but I don't. It is not a safe practice but the hospital does not seem to care. I want to come home content that I did someone some good. My licence is hanging out the window at this travel hospital and I dread going back. I regret leaving my old hospital because at least working conditions are safe here.

Specializes in Trauma,ER,CCU/OHU/Nsg Ed/Nsg Research.

I'm having a hard time reconciling why you're mad at everyone else in the profession for your own lack of action. If you were upset at how the doc treated the newbie, you as an 18 year veteran in nursing should have felt comfortable enough- traveler or not- in stepping up and saying something.

If you want input in the policies of the facility you are working in, work there as permanent staff. If you don't want to charge for band-aids, rescind your yearly raise, because like it or not, taking things like that out of the room charge, can help redirect that money to your paycheck at times. Maybe they have to do that to be able to afford all the travelers they have. If they have old computers, maybe they also have financial dificulties.

Yelling docs- we can handle that with a little assertiveness, and with support from our co-workers.

Charging for bandaids- we have bigger fish to fry. Now, if you were talking about MOT or ratios, you might have a point.

Autonomy- it isn't handed out freely. We have to be vocal and advocate for that.

And I'm sorry, but I don't buy the argument that you couldn't say anything because you're a traveler. I'm a 10 year veteran, new on my unit, but still gave a doc "The Look," square in the eye after he started griping at one of the new nurses. He slunk back and shut up. I didn't have to say a word- just let him know I was witnessing his behavior and didn't appreciate it. He knew he was wrong, and apologized to her.

Change begins at home. I'm all for supporting someone who is burned out- been there myself. But, starting out with calling all of us pathetic is not the way to garner that support. By doing so, you're asking us to take being disrespected as professionals- just like your new coworker.

Specializes in Med/Surge, ER.

Sounds to me like you really should leave nursing.

Specializes in L&D.

I haven't read through the last three pages, so pardon if this has already been said: We aren't the only under-appreciated and abused profession out there. My husband is a cop and he gets dumped on from every direction. No one likes a cop until they need one. He doesn't get lunch breaks many days, his bosses are too busy kissing their boss's behinds to stand up for their guys, etc. I could go on, but that's for another forum.

To the OP: Sounds like you are working in a terrible hospital. I am so sorry for that. My mom has been an RN for 37 years, and I have made mental notes of her nursing career along the way. There have been hospitals she has loved and ones that she had despised. She worked in a hospital where they charged for everything, never had needed supplies, management did anything but manage, the few nurses that were there backstabbed each other...so on and so forth. So, my mom didn't allow herself to be abused! She left! And that's what you do when you're being abused! If the hospital is too stupid to do something to keep good nurses, then that's the hospital's problem! The hospital will go belly-up and open up the market for a new and hopefully better place to work.

There are better places. I work at one of them. My manager isn't perfect, but no one is. There are a couple of backstabbers, but we just ignore them. (Backstabbers thrive on the negative energy they create, so we deny them that). Overall, we work as a team. The docs definitely don't abuse us. We will not tolerate that from them. I stood up to a doctor not too long ago for being nasty! I'd do it again in a heartbeat!

Also, nurses don't "deserve" abuse. No one "deserves" abuse. In your original post, you said that we deserve better pay and working conditions, right? Hopefully things will shape up in the hospital in which you work. But don't sacrifice your happiness in the meantime. Find a place where you are appreciated!!!

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
Apathy is a good way to state this too but I have not lost passion for nursing, just the whole process that makes it hard to do my job. Yes, we need to adapt to change because health care and its delivery are changing but I cannot be in 7 rooms at one time. that is how many surgical patients I had to myself last week. My care greatly lacked and I went home feeling inadequate to do my job. This is not what I want to do for the next 20 years before I retire. And maybe some of you enjoy 7 surgicals, but I don't. It is not a safe practice but the hospital does not seem to care. I want to come home content that I did someone some good. My licence is hanging out the window at this travel hospital and I dread going back. I regret leaving my old hospital because at least working conditions are safe here.

I understand. I feel your pain. Our management recently cut our staffing but cutting back the techs, we RNs now have more to do with the same amount of patients. We're not passively accepting it. Meeting after meeting we've voice our concerns, basically to be told "if you don't like it, then leave". Then the next meeting we forced to attend is about our miserable cutomer service scores and what we need to do to improve it.

It can be demoralizing and can make us a bit apathetic. Why do I put up with it? Somehow I've managed to keep some peace of mind about it all. But I have my moments similar to what you're going through right now.

I hope you're not feeling judged,(although your first post might invited it, but the other posts clarify it some and make me more sympathetic to your plight, with is the plight of many of us), because you deserve support and understanding. I understand. I am a nurse, boy do I understand.

Specializes in Oncology/Haemetology/HIV.
We all stood around and allowed him to carry on and reduce her to tears. And I am as guilty as the rest but I am the traveler and had to be silent.

You are the traveler and so you HAVE to be silent!?!?!?

You must be joking.

I have been traveling for 5 years, and have a platinum reputation. I don't whine at work about the small stuff, work hard and garner alot of respect from my peers.

I am currently in an assignment that ranks as THE WORST ASSIGNMENT/JOB of my life. In 16 hospitals. And if you figure that I have also been a bartender and worked in a liquor store, where I was held up at gunpoint...that says alot.

One thing that all this gives me is a sense of power.

I hate my assignment....do I really give a crap if they fire me? I would probably kiss feet if they fired me. I have great credentials from some of the greatest facilities in the country.

Now, I don't work at being a jerk and I treat every one of my coworkers politely and well - they are nice and it is sad, what they deal with here. And, worse, they will have to continue to deal with "here" after I leave. They deserve my prayers.

But, you know what, when Dr. X acts like a total %^&* for no good reason, I have no problem with ticking them off. I have the freedom because I really don't have as much as staff to lose.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
You are the traveler and so you HAVE to be silent!?!?!?

You must be joking.

Well the op did admit to being guilty as the rest of them. I give props there.

However, I also agree with you, being a traveler is no excuse for silence. Some of the most vocal critics I've come across have been travelers. For precisely the reason you say: they have nothing to loose and could not care less if they ever came back to our facility.

Specializes in Med-surg,oncology, renal.

Oh My God!!! Finally some brave,honest soul who expresses total honesty about this "profession." I totally agree with you, Lorster. I've been a staff nurse on an oncology/med-surg floor for almost 9 years, and I feel that RN's are basically treated like "poop" by Md's, Nurse managers, fellow nurses, pt's, family members, etc., etc. the only thing keeping me there is the paycheck.

I hate working with people who are just in it for the paycheck because you can tell exactly who they are. If it is that bad and you hate it that much then get out. Just a thought.

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