How do you really feel about 5-star rooms? - page 7
Our hospital has new "5-star" rooms (you know with a chef, etc.) What is your reaction to this type of thing and "how does it make you feel"? I'd really like to know what other nurses think about... Read More
May 22, '04Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 38,756; Likes: 16,285Quote from HerEyes73I also don't agree that 'all' will benefit from the money garnered by '5 star rooms'. Do you think admin. will say...'hey!' we're doing so well here that we've decided to hire more nurses and raise their salaries!' I doubt it. It will line the pockets of the already wealthy.
Maybe I'm cynical, but that's just my humble opinion.
Exactly. So it's a good thing cause it generates more revenue? Hmmm good for whom exactly? Those in the corner offices, for sure!
I think people are deluding themselves---- if they think we all benefit from such pampering and the income garnered by it. I DOUBT hospitals with such revenues being generated this way share it fairly among staff who have to do the catering to such tastes.
Now, If all that is different is the "eye candy", then I am all for it, really. As long as staff ratio's do not differ or they are not compromising care of "common" people in other rooms or on other units. That never happens, right?Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on May 22, '04
Jun 3, '04Occupation: Clinical Educator Specialty: Critical Care, ED, End of Life, Pain ; Joined: Nov '03; Posts: 26; Likes: 20Quote from eak16I have to agree wholeheartedly. Yes, the rich have needs and wants too but living and working in an area where there are many rich people, I know from experience how they and their families treat the nursing staff. To many of them we are glorified handmaidens. I understand the hospital's need to stand out and be different and their wish to cater to this clientelle but perception is 'fact' to most people and what kind of perception will this '5 star' status imply to both those who use the service and those who can't afford it? Are ordinary folks going to believe that everyone is receiving the same level of care? I think not. Once again we divide the 'have's and the have nots'!since when did having a personal chef become a "need"? Is bringing in their poodle a need too? Some people have more money than others. More often than not this is a result of good luck or bad luck as to where and to whom they were born. The good news about this is that all humans have the same basic needs- read up on Maslows if you cant remember- and ascribing needs to one group of paitents and not to another based on economics is absurd.
Jun 3, '04Occupation: RN Specialty: ICU ; From: US ; Joined: Jan '04; Posts: 65; Likes: 2Quote from LPN2Be2004The optional services wouldn't be fair, because it's quite obvious that it'll take money to purchase them. Put an EO (Equal Opportunity) stamp on it, an income sliding scale, then we'll see how well it goes. Unless that happens, it'll never be fair.
If you have the money to pay for them it is fair--it's called a free market system. As another post pointed out some of us can afford to buy expensive things because we work hard to make the money to pay for it. This is not a socialist country and I hope it never turns into one. The rich pay more than their fair share to take care of people who can't or won't take care of themselves. Putting expensies on a sliding scale would be unfair to those people who made and saved money to be able to afford luxuries.
Jun 3, '04Occupation: Registered Nurse Specialty: 22 year(s) of experience in renal, haemo and peritoneal,medical,aged ; Joined: Oct '03; Posts: 666; Likes: 27If you are truly crook wouldn't surf 'n' turf be a helluva lot harder to throw up than reconstituted egg?!
Jun 3, '04Joined: Mar '04; Posts: 6Quote from maddiecatI personally think it is disgusting. If someone wants a chef, go to a hotel or go home. It is hard enough convincing people that our hospital is not a hotel, and that I am not a maid or a waitress- I am a skilled, trained professional with a degree, and that sometimes I know more about your condition than your physician does. MY job is to look after your health and be your advocate, not your servant.Our hospital has new "5-star" rooms (you know with a chef, etc.) What is your reaction to this type of thing and "how does it make you feel"? I'd really like to know what other nurses think about it because my first reaction was not a positive one. THANKS!
Jun 3, '04Occupation: staff development Joined: Mar '04; Posts: 538; Likes: 50The hospital should be focused on health care not becoming a resort. Sure, many of us have worked hard to earn a decent living for our families, but there are more appropriate arenas for the lavishness than in a hospital. I know it won't happen here -- we are a not for profit hospital and have soooo many indigent folks to care for -- we are cutting budgets left and right. Can't imagine what our CEO would say if we suggested a program like this!
Jun 3, '04Occupation: Reg.N., BSc.N. Joined: Jan '03; Posts: 547; Likes: 8Are you serious?
I have never heard of anything like that, nor would I want to see that implemented.
We don't have that in Canada and I hope we don't.
Jun 3, '04Joined: Oct '03; Posts: 73; Likes: 11Quote from llgWhen one is REALLY sick, he or she doesn't really care about all the crap. A chef for cripes sakes?! There are already too many people that want to be in the hospital so they can be waited on. With 5 star hospitals, we'll see a lot more people faking illness.I think it is very interesting that people who espouse respect for everybody, different cultures, meeting everyone's needs, etc. sometimes have no problem being critical of the needs of the wealthy. People who are accustomed to living at a high socio-economic level should not have to sacrifice their socio-cultural needs any more than people who have cultural needs based on ethnicity or religion. But somehow, even among "caring" people, it is OK to "bash" them for having those needs.
There is nothing wrong with being rich ... and nothing wrong for wanting to purchase a few luxeries in times of stress. And hospitals who can fulfill those needs are simply being smart to offer those services. Who do you think pays for a lot of the basic services available to poor people? The poor people don't pay for it all themselves. Many things are available to poor people because some rich person either provided the hospital with a profit that could be used to cover the loss that occurred by providing care for the poor person ... or some rich people made a charitable donation. Without rich patients, a hospital doesn't have the money to provide good care to poor people.
Jun 3, '04Joined: Mar '04; Posts: 8Quote from eak16But here is my take on this. I hear all the negative but I have not heard anyone attack the fact that even if you dont have a "5 star room" What about private rooms? I know when my wife gave birth to our daughter we had a choice between a standard room or a deluxe room. We chose the deluxe (paid a arm and a leg for it) But again are you saying since we are middle class we should not have that option. BTW are service was the same as a standard as far as nursing goes. Diffrence was a bigger room, A bigger T.V., two fold out couches for relatives, and day care service for the other children. Does this mean I should not have gotten that extra service because I could afford it but someone else might not be able to? Samething applys to this thread! If someone can afford the maid and the cheif then so be it. I dont think the hospital will require the nurses or doctors to give any diffrent care (unless they pay for a private nurse or doctor) But, If they do pay for extra care such as the nurse and doctor good business says that you would do it. But, if most of your arguments hold true then you are also saying if you were seriously injured in a accident then you would not mind going to county hospitol. I do personaly mind it! Since I am fortunate enough to be able to go to the hospitol that needs to have helath insurance to get in is that biased? No! Sorry to rant but this is just my opinion on this subject. You can take it as just that a opnion.so the rich have the right to be kept more comfortable than others??? Do they also deserve more pain meds?? What about lower nursing ratios?? While wer'e on it, what about completely separate hospitals where they dont have to be bothered by non-rich folks at all. (oh wait, we have those... :stone )
if the food is really that bad and the blankets are really that thin for the general population, it should all be upgraded.
Jun 3, '04Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 38,756; Likes: 16,285I guess we need to define "needs" versus "wants" ...I think NEEDS are to be attended in a hospital. However, in our customerr -is- always- right- mentality, I can see where 5-star rooms will not only fly, but be in GREAT demand where there is money to pay for them. But don't be so quick to accuse people here of prejudice or being harsh, just because they don't see personal chefs, filet mignon and Picasso paintings as "needs" in the hospital setting . The rich have needs, yes true. They deserve to have them met, like ANYONE. But Let's be real ; these things are amenities, wants, and desireables---- but make no mistake, they are NOT "needs". When people's NEEDS are all met, I can then justify catering to such "wants". Til then, it's very hard for me to swallow.
I guess I don't get this. If they are that sick to be in the hospital, with today's high acuities and short stays, how anyone can really justify this is beyond me. Do you think people that sick really NEED filet mignon, chocolate mousse and Picasso???? DO you think they care? Maybe, but then maybe they are not sick enough to be in the hospital if they do. Maybe they need to be AT home where these things are all around and HIRE a PERSONAL NURSE to deal with their "needs" there. Just my thoughts......Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Jun 3, '04
Jun 4, '04Occupation: RN Manager (Retired) Specialty: 10 year(s) of experience in ICU, CM, Geriatrics, Management ; From: US ; Joined: Sep '03; Posts: 3,325; Likes: 722Quote from stevielynnTough to argue with this.... If someone wants to pay for 5 star service, so be it...
(Would only add: so long as it doesn't interfere with the care of others.)
Jun 4, '04Occupation: RN Manager (Retired) Specialty: 10 year(s) of experience in ICU, CM, Geriatrics, Management ; From: US ; Joined: Sep '03; Posts: 3,325; Likes: 722Quote from DixiecupVery much so.It is akin to customer service!