how do we change nurses opinions on male nurses? - page 2
i guess this kinda goes along with my other post. I our discussion the topic came up that some older nurses do not seem to believe males should or can be nurses. especially in the ob areas. how could... Read More
Sep 28, '02Joined: Mar '02; Posts: 33; Likes: 10I have never run into a problem with any coworkers. In fact when I started on my floor all the nurses were glad to finally "have a guy around again."
Now there are four of us and sometimes we outnumber the women.
Sep 28, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 1,614; Likes: 2Originally posted by SmilingBluEyes
it's not just limited to NURSING you know. When I was military, I was referred to as a "female" troop. .
It was hard for me to understand why they got promoted faster and were treated so much better, but they wore the same uniform and in most cases, out-ranked this lance corporal.
I remember once, while training with the british royal marines, I asked one if they had women in the british marines. He looked at me very surprised and puzzled and said, in a thick british accent, "Women??? In the Marine Corps???"
Now, I imagine what some women RN's think about me. "Men???? As Nurses?????" Lol.
Sep 28, '02Occupation: critical care Joined: Sep '02; Posts: 182; Likes: 1I'm always glad to see a new nurse join the ranks-be they male or female. My husband is going to nursing school right now and tells me that at times he is looked at askance by some of his peers, but he is motivated to be a nurse. I tell him that we love having more men at work. Makes for more variety and defuses some of the back-stab behaviors we sometimes encounter in an all woman work group.
Sep 28, '02Occupation: L.P.N. in LTC Specialty: med surg,homecare,hospice ; Joined: Aug '00; Posts: 4,682; Likes: 4,824we have a few male staff members in our LTC facility...I am thankful to have an orderly on our unit-his presence is calming towards the residents and the rest of the bickering and backbiting staff ....There are some elderly female residents whom are uncomfortable having a young male do their care-we accomodate them.....I think the same thing should apply in acute care-if any patient is uncomfortable with any nurse they have the right to request accomodation....On the other hand I don't think we should refuse to care for particular pts because they offend us in some way...It's my double standard...All you-as a male nurse-can do is to act in your usual professional manner-others will watch and learn.I don't think you will change your co-worker's attitudes-but perhaps after you demonstrat eyour competency and your willingness to be one of the team they will learn to accept you......In women's health areas you will always run into some amount of prejudice and you will have to learn to live with it...PS------we were told that there are no men or women in the ARMY---all are SOLDIERS...and treated the same-like crap straight through basic training.....lol
Sep 28, '02Occupation: allnurses Asst Community Manager, APRN Specialty: 25 year(s) of experience in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU ; From: US ; Joined: Apr '00; Posts: 53,361; Likes: 26,175I don't care if you're male or female, gay, straight, white, black, brown, purple or polka-dot - please come work in the ED with me. We need you. In this day and age - this is bs!!! Plain and simple.
Sep 28, '02Occupation: PCU/TELE Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 489; Likes: 13I don't get it. I work on a unit where the nurses are split nearly 50/50. I never even think about male/female. I always look to see who I'm working with because, like everyone else I work better with some nurses than others. I'm with traumaRUs, you could have landed at Roswell or Area 51, if you are a good nurse grab someand join the team.
Sep 28, '02Joined: Dec '01; Posts: 3,165; Likes: 59*sigh* I have seen the kind of treatment that Mario describes, and it's unprofessional and disgusting.
I have had male nurses as a patient and worked with male nurses that, by and large, are far superior to the average woman.
I don't know if this is because of such severe hazing that only certain guys can stand it long enough to get through to a level of competence and confidence, but I'd guess that's likely.
However, it's as difficult to prove that one NM didn't hire you because you're a guy as it would've been for me to try to prove that I lost a secretarial or waitress job because I'm fat. The ultimate question is: do you really wanna work for people like that?
My answer was nope.
Sep 28, '02Occupation: Retired Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience in Corrections, Psych, Med-Surg ; From: US ; Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 2,246; Likes: 48Mark--to respond directly to your question--I don't think it is possible to change the opinion of anyone who is convinced she/he already has all the answers.
Sometimes the only thing to do is simply to write these people off, go about your business, and quietly keep notes on any "problematic" interactions that might be the basis for a rewarding lawsuit in the future.
Sep 28, '02Joined: Jul '02; Posts: 134; Likes: 3I've always operated under one simple rule: Be professional and damn good. If possible, better than anyone else!
Most will respect you and fall in line. The others don't matter.
Sep 28, '02Occupation: research nurse Joined: Oct '01; Posts: 1,878; Likes: 44I agree with people who have said that the way to change people's perceptions/opinions is to "be good."
I have had some (several) really bad experiences with nurses who happen to be male. It really colored my perception of males in this profession. There are always lazy nurses, nurses who will chart that they flushed the saline lock that they didn't even look at in real life. It just so happened that 95% of the nurses like that whom I'd encountered happened to be male.
Now that I'm encountering males who are good, thorough, reliable nurses, that image is extinguishing.
Sep 28, '02Occupation: Special Populations Paraeducator Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 166; Likes: 6You and the other male nurses have already made me change the majority of my opinions about male nurses especially in OB/GYN. I had only 2 males in my nursing class in 1984 and they were both very good nurses. I guess I just never worked with any after that so I didn't have a true picture about how professional, reliable, caring and hard working you guys are. God Bless and please continue doing the wonderful job that you do.
Sep 28, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Aug '01; Posts: 2,276; Likes: 42We currently have one male who is an LPN on our unit, and a couple of CNA's who male. I love working with them. Like a couple of the other posters stated it is nice to have them around. I would say that 90% of our pts have been very accepting of them. These guys are very dedicated and professional and I love having them around. I just found out that one of the young men in my church just changed his major from pre-med to nursing!! He wants to eventually go for his master's degree in nursing. Just talked to him last week and told him how glad I was to hear that he was going into nursing. He will be a fantastic nurse.
Sep 28, '02Occupation: RN-i (RETIRED) Specialty: ORTHOPAEDICS-CERTIFIED SINCE 89 ; From: US ; Joined: May '00; Posts: 14,479; Likes: 2,298NMAguiar wrote:
I've always operated under one simple rule: Be professional and damn good. If possible, better than anyone else!
Most will respect you and fall in line. The others don't matter