How did nursing ever "buy into" 12-hr shifts??? - page 7
My unit has lost four nurses to other non-hospital jobs, so the nurses can be home in the evening with their young children. How did we ever get to 12 hour shifts? How do we get OUT of them???... Read More
Sep 9, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 12Like I tell everybody. Go work for an agency. Then you can work three 8's and get paid what you would for a 40 hour week! Take control nurses. It's in our hands if we try hard enough!
Sep 9, '02Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 33; Likes: 1With this nursing shortage, RN's have a great deal more choices about their work situation. I've said it before, but if you don't like it where you're at- Look for something else and quit moaning to everyone else!
Sep 9, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 9; Likes: 2Hate 12's ! I'm only 39 but they almost killed me. I would run for 12 hours straight without ANY breaks (that includes bathroom) then spend my day off wiped out. I never saw my children and they are my priority not my job. I decided to leave a job I loved and people I was close to just to get out of 12's.They primarily benefit managemant and make staffing alot easier. I saw alot of mistakes from coworkers and loss of attention after their 8th hour. I also heard alot more patient complaints in the last 4 hours of the shift.
Sep 10, '02Occupation: neonatal nurse Joined: May '01; Posts: 140; Likes: 512 hour shifts suit me and more to the point I have a chioce.
We still have a mixture of 12 hr, twilight,and conventional shifts. Old and New staff get a chioce as to what they work (think they'ld get a bit anoyed if you chopped and changed) but it keeps the unit ticking over.
One thing I must have is a lunch break though, I go hypo in a big way (passed out when a student when taking a patient to theatre most embaracing had more nursed around me than the patient) I now recognise the symptoms and don't let it get that far,so I at least don't sit and have a nibble of something. Even had the manager feeding me mugs of sweet coffee one day when I had on hope of getting out of intensive care due to very sick 25 week twins we had just admitted, (finally got to lunch at 5pm but still standing)Last edit by karenelizabeth on Sep 10, '02
Sep 10, '02Occupation: RN, government consultant Joined: Jan '01; Posts: 167; Likes: 6I left my last clinical job when they changed to all 12's. I hated them. I felt I was not physically up to it ...I had 8 hours at 100%.
Now as a nurse consultant I work 4 10 hour days, M-R. This is desk work and teaching. Big difference.
Since the average nurse is, what 45 now? I think the aging factor is going to work in favor of more creative staffing patterns.
Sep 12, '02Occupation: Nursing Faculty Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience in Trauma,ER,CCU/OHU/Nsg Ed/Nsg Research ; From: US ; Joined: May '02; Posts: 8,317; Likes: 6,285I work 12 Hr nights, and I love it. I have kids at home, and actually get to spend more time with them. I leave a couple of hrs before their bedtime, and I return (usually) in time to get them off to school in the A.M. Plus, while I'm gone, they are asleep, so they don't miss me as much. And the 4 days off gives me the much needed time to get other things done in my life, such as school, etc. I used to hate 12 hr shifts, but have come to very much appreciate them. Besides, where I work, it can take 12 hrs just to get everything done with my patients that needs to be done without leaving stuff for the next shift. For instance, I'm not in as big a rush to get my 23:00 I's and O's done, etc.
Sep 13, '02Occupation: Endless Joined: Sep '02; Posts: 81; Likes: 1I find that twelves can be more efficient.
I feel that I have better continuity in carrying out . Working days, I can see almost the entirety of a pediatric day, and most of the spectrum of a child's activitites.
Also, a two thirds as much time is spent in report, and there is 1/3 less time spent orienting to patients (as only two nurses rather than three carry the patient in the course of a day.
In pediatrics, we are also more likely to see the family, if we are around longer in a day. Both day and night shifts tend to straddle the period during which the parents are there in the evening.
On a personal note, although 12-hour shifts are physically demanding, I spend less time each week commuting, and that is a real blessing around here.
Plus, I like the days off.
Sep 13, '02Joined: Sep '02; Posts: 5I love my 12 hour shifts, I've always thought if I have to be there 8-10 hours, I may as well take on a few more so I can have a life outside of working. Obviously from a management standpoint, two 12 hour shifts only require 2 nurses per patient rather than 3, so that would be their view. However, if they were smart and had retention on the mind, they may consider that each person has a different situation, and be willing to offer shift sharing or some other kind of shift offerings to make everyone happy. It's called flexibility, something that hospital management has yet to understand in many ways.
Sep 13, '02Occupation: neonatal nurse Joined: May '01; Posts: 140; Likes: 5In one of the hospitals here there are two wards, both are mixed gen med
1. has traditional 8 hr days 10 hr nights permantly short staffed runs on agency nursed.
2. staff work hours days to suit. If you can only work 9.30 - 2.30 you do if you can onty do nights you d 12 hr ok twilight ok to as long as you work contracted hr, No probs, Staff self roster ward always fully staffed, hardly any sick leave, hardly used agency. waiting list to work there.
need I say more
Re 12 hr shifts the first christmas after some of us started them (only about 10 out of 60 staff to start with) we were sooooo short the senior nurse for an excercise rejig the rota as if we were all doing conventional shifts ang guess what it would have taken 3 extra bank/agency nurses to cover the shifts