Hospital Nurses - page 3
Yesterday at clinicals I asked our instructor, at the end of the day's group meeting, what a nursing student should do if the nurses atthe rehab center I was at won't talk to you, when you attempt to... Read More
Nov 17, '02Occupation: Quality Nurse & Home Health Nurse Joined: Dec '99; Posts: 3,786; Likes: 129Lois...LMAO!!! Good for her!
Mario, you have to work on the fear thing. Mean people can smell fear. They will target you from afar like an owl can see a barn mouse a mile away!
You're not supposed to know everything! You're a student. If they won't answer your questions, and you MUST ask them when you are uncertain, go to your instructor.
Man, I LOVED to have students. When you were assigned to me in ICU, you damn well learned something! I put you to work!
Nov 17, '02Occupation: LPN; Self Employed Joined: May '01; Posts: 334; Likes: 25From me to you, Mario: :kiss
Nov 17, '02Joined: Nov '00; Posts: 931; Likes: 18Lois, you hit on something that really works. HUMOR! If you can think up someway to laugh at the person's "joke" then you have disarmed their meanness.
Nov 17, '02Joined: Sep '02; Posts: 2,066; Likes: 12LOL...I think thats how this thread started! With humor!
Nov 22, '02Occupation: Proud and Educated Licensed Vocation Nurse Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 1,286; Likes: 27originally posted by skm-nursiepooh
i too have to agree with pretzlgl
my program doesn't allow students to ask the nursing staff for any information that can be looked-up first...
Nov 22, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 1,614; Likes: 2Originally posted by baseline
LOL...I think thats how this thread started! With humor!
It's a clear example of how CNA's and RN's will and do kill and eat their young. I will always fawn.
I understand building the need for students to look in charts for their first time. But you don't have to do it, just tell them how to do it. they look to you for information, not lazy. Please be kind to me as a student, even if someone beat you up when you were a student. Break the vicious cycle of this cannabalism. Choose love and spare me the bravado. Dad burn it! At least giveme a break the first and second time before you start to attack and bite on me. I won't take it!
Nov 22, '02Joined: Sep '02; Posts: 2,066; Likes: 12I was not being insensitive to you Mario....I was refering toYouda's post " Lois, you hit on something that really works. HUMOR! If you can think up someway to laugh at the person's "joke" then you have disarmed their meanness"...and my original post that suggested you needed to "lighten up" and not take things so seriously. I haven't gone back to read it...but I think my memory serves me correctly. No offense was intended Mario........
Nov 22, '02Joined: May '02; Posts: 266; Likes: 1Mario - I also didn't mean to "beat you up" when I stated that we had to look in the charts ourselves. In fact, our instructors were the ones to ask if we had a question. I personally didn't have bad experiences when I was in nursing school. (With the nurses that is). I agree that if you are being treated poorly, then this should stop. No one deserves this. People in every profession have bad attitudes - this is true - and you are right, we need to stop the cycle. Good Luck to you, you will make a great nurse.
Nov 22, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 1,614; Likes: 2no offense was taken baseline or pretselgirl. I just ask out loud to the world "what happened to nurturing a nursing student, and being courteous? This is a serious thing to me, really. I really want to learn, and I am, and it's all positive in the end (before it gets through my forcefield and phospho-lipid membrane, lol. I don't want to suffer with a trans-cerebral ischemic attack trying to figure out and deal with someone else's depresssion.
Nov 22, '02Joined: May '02; Posts: 266; Likes: 1You are right on there Mario - what did happen to common courtesy?? I'm glad you weren't offended by my posts. That is never my intention. Nursing school was the hardest thing I have done in my life. It surprises me that my family thought it was easy. And you certainly don't need any more pressure from outside forces when you are in school. Best of Luck to you.
Nov 23, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 5,673; Likes: 159Guess I'l be the wet blanket here...
Bottom line IMHO??? It is NOT the staff nurses' primary job to teach/nurture the students. Many times the student is simply an extra burden to an overwhelmed nurse...and if you bug them too often and fail to see what's going on, you may well get 'nipped'...their priority is THEIR workload and THEIR stress load, not yours.
If a student encounters a group of staff nurses who do NOT make themselves available to oberve procedures and meds, for example, the student's job is to ask their INSTRUCTOR how to proceed. Perhaps she can locate a nurse who has more time or wishes to work with a student....even if it's on another unit. As others have said, don't take it personal...just find another way to get the experience you need.
Whoever has told students that the staff is ultimately responsible for their SN experience gave the WRONG info.
Students are wise to be responsible for their OWN learning and stop the victim mentality right now in it's tracks...as a student nurse. As a college student, you are not children.... so act like adults.
Perhaps I am the only one here who feels the student whining is getting a bit excessive on this BB. So be it... I will express my opinion.
OK...wet blanket leaving now...whining may now resume unchecked.
Nov 23, '02Joined: Sep '02; Posts: 2,066; Likes: 12Like I said Mario....find your sense of humor and thicken your skin or you are in for a long career. Rudeness is never correct. But you need to suck it up a tad. If you are going to come unglued every single time someone is short with you or gossips or doesn't do things just the way YOU see it.....you will be unhappy every day. When I was a student back in the dark ages, I kept my mouth shut, my ears open and my eyes WIDE. I listened and watched and learned. It didn't take me long to figure out the system and hierarchy of the unit.....who was able to help...who was too busy...who I never WOULD approach......and I learned an awful lot!!! Lessons I still use today.
Ok...Im done...said my piece.....TTFN
Nov 23, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 1,614; Likes: 2If you are going to come unglued every single time someone is short with you or gossips
No - I can not become unglued because of my high energy electron bonds boardering every cell in my body. :-)
I hear what you all are saying, and you make sense. To me, being a nurse means you are not short and you don't gossip. All this should be covered in prereq courses. Being calm and managing your mental state of mind at all times is something I am expecting without thinking about it too much. Also, I wouldn't judge every nursing student the same. Sure, some students are shy and some students are assertive, but we are all trying to learn. If you have issues with your work load, or can not handle your tasks without them turning you into the wicked witch (or warlock) of the west, then do yourself a favor and bow out.
Yall nippers out there may get away with doing that to some patients and some staff/students, but not all of us are gonna take it. It don't have to be that way, and no one should bark at or nip anyone at any time. If your too busy to think, then make some serious introspective looks. Don't let your mental state become a stacked deck of cards and when someone ask you a question about a PT you colapse. :kiss