HELP! I DON"T WANT TO GO THROUGH CNA first... - page 11
This is really not to put any profession down but I've dreamed of being a nurse for soooo long, now only to discover that before entering my LVN program, I have to get the CNA title first! I am... Read More
Feb 7, '07Joined: Jan '07; Posts: 12Nursing is a really bad idea for you I think....I am a student, and had to go through the CNA class, which I actually enjoyed quite a bit. I got to work at a nursing home where I gained TONS of knowledge about patient care, and EVERY SINGLE NURSE (RN or LPN) had to clean up the poo, the puke, and help bathe patients from time to time. Add to that paperwork, and time constraints, and that's what an RN or LPN does.
If you can't handle being a CNA, there's no way you'll make it as an LPN or RN. Perhaps try working in a office or something...no bathing, poo or puke there!
I hope it doesn't sound mean, but RN's do EVERYTHING a CNA does, and more.
Feb 7, '07Occupation: Rapid response nurse Specialty: 12 year(s) of experience in Neuro ICU and Med Surg ; From: MI, US ; Joined: Sep '06; Posts: 3,224; Likes: 3,798Lookingforward:
If you really want to become a nurse then suck it up and take the class. Just remember YOU WILL CLEAN POO AS A NURSE. We aren't immune to doing those "dirty" tasks. What kind of response did you expect, especially from those on the board that are CNA's? Did you expect to hear that nurses never clean up poo,puke,vomit,etc. Did you think nursing was all sitting at the nurses station and maybe passing out pills and assessment and thats all? We have many other yucky tasks like ostomy care? These people really are already embarrassed as it is that they don't have normal bowels, and sometimes they leak, explode. Would you clean up or let them sit like that and look for the CNA? I don't like to clean up poo, but I knew going into nursing that it was part of the job. Helping the CNA clean up poo or give a bath is a great time to do your skin assessment. If you work ICU you give the baths with the assist of a CNA. If you don't want to clean up poo then don't be a nurse. These people don't want to be incontinent or unable to get out of bed becuase they are too sick and intubated or weak, etc.
You can do as some posters have suggested using a mint or vicks. I don't recommend a mask because you could offend the patient. If you truly want to be a nurse you will be able to move beyond this. Just remember you and the CNA are a team! You should help each other. Also I think this class will help. As many others have said, you will have already gotten down the basics of bed baths and VS. I just remember those who worked in healthcare were ahead in the basic skills. Like I said take the class. You might find it a good idea to work as a CNA while in nursing school. I was a nurse extern the last semester before I graduated and it REALLY helped me make that student to nurse transition.
If you really want to be a nurse go for it, but remember no nurse is immune to cleaning poo. So good luck to you as to what you decide to do.
Feb 7, '07Joined: Apr '03; Posts: 7,569; Likes: 2,297I think we're :deadhorse here. LF says we're not understanding what she's trying to say, we all say she's not listening to us. It's gotten to the point where both sides are beyond listening to each other.
Feb 7, '07Joined: Aug '06; Posts: 101; Likes: 30I can't hold back any longer. This thread is frustrating, mainly because the OP has received so many well-written thoughtful replies, yet she continues to be so flippant and condescending.
OP, you keep saying that youjust don't dream of making a living out of changing briefs all day.
FYI, CNAs provide direct patient care in many different ways, including helping patients perform self-care, taking vital signs, helping patients ambulate and do ROM exercises, ensuring the patients receive proper nutrition, etc etc etc. All of these tasks are very important to the health of patients. Proper hygiene, including keeping the perineal area clean, is critical to prevent infections and maintain skin integrity. Elderly people in particular are vulnerable to nosocomial infections that can be fatal. Sorry if the poopy diapers are inconvenient for you but they may be a matter of saving someone's life, or at the very least preserving their health.
Your comments suggest that you may trivialize some very important tasks related to nursing care and it makes me wonder if you understand what a nurse does. I suggest you practice a little self-assessment and consider whether you understand and are willing to accept the responsibility of being a nurse.Last edit by pacifica on Feb 7, '07 : Reason: typo
Feb 7, '07Joined: Feb '07; Posts: 34it's not condescending it's called honesty! there are other ways of "saving lives" beside changing diapers as you stated! : )Last edit by lookingforward on Feb 7, '07 : Reason: typo
Feb 7, '07Joined: Feb '05; Posts: 9; Likes: 1Quote from lookingforwardThis is really not to put any profession down but I've dreamed of being a nurse for soooo long, now only to discover that before entering my LVN program, I have to get the CNA title first! I am horrified of having to do some of the tasks described! This is not whaat I dreamed of all these years, I was thinking more along the lines of changing newborn diapers, not old folk diapers! CAN ANYONE BRING ANY CONSOLATION?
I have my CNA/HHA and I love it. You get to work work one on one with patients and are really able to get to know them and take care of there needs. I am also going to school for my RN. You must be compassionate and be able to handle ALL tasks or otherwise how can you become a nurse. I would think about it longer if I were you. Being a nurse entails total care. I am soooo glad that I became a CNA/HHA and I love it and the realtionships with my patients are irreplacebale. I treasure all of them. You really have to be a certain kind of person to be a nurse. If you do not have that special something then find another profession.
Good luck to you.Last edit by carlaann12 on Feb 7, '07
Feb 7, '07Occupation: RN From: US ; Joined: Nov '06; Posts: 56; Likes: 3If you do not want to change briefs then guess what you do not have to. I bet they won't miss your pathetic self.
Feb 7, '07Joined: Feb '07; Posts: 34i'm still guessing siemprebella...
Feb 7, '07Occupation: Hospital Staff Nurse Specialty: PEDS ~ PP ~ NNB & LII Nursery ; From: US ; Joined: Sep '06; Posts: 280; Likes: 30Quote from lookingforwardthis post disappoints me and i have to say makes me a little worried. it seems to say that you don't think that current nurses that are doing what you plan to do in the future don't know what they are talking about and are just being mean to you. that is concerning... and not just a little bit.all this is fine and dandy serousanguineous, but the reality is that you don't have to enjoy poop to be a good nurse! it is a rewarding profession but that's why there's a ladder to climb after cna! originally i was asking for consolation and let me tell you i have had as many "private" messages of consolation as these harsh ones you have read on this thread! i will emphasize private. why because ppl are afraid to be honest. just because you don't dream of cleaning poop all day doesn't mean you don't want to care for the elderly! i can handle blood and other body fluids but just don't dream of making a living out of changing briefs all day. it is true that going through cna school will allow me a heads-up on what it takes to be an rn, but i do feel that rns never intended to hold a nursing position working wih poop all day long, just my opinion! thanks for reading!
yes, to be a good nurse you have to understand the cna role and be able to do it. you obviously have a misconception of the job a cna does. i personally am glad you are required to take the class and wish that your school required you to have at least 3 months experience of doing the job so you could understand it a little bit better.
here is the truth for you to do with what you will... an rn does everything a cna does and more. many times certain patients in the hospital environment even benefit from their rn "changing them" and cleaning them up when they have a bm. they have built (hopefully) a level of trust with their rn that they may not have had the opportunity to build with their cna for a variety of common reasons.
you honestly need to come off your horse and listen to what you are being told. it is not about glamour and glitz to be a nurse. it is about caring (100%) and being willing to do the yucky stuff as well. in order to succeed as a nurse and not have a horrible experience that could even result in the death (yes it can get that extreme) of a patient, you have to be willing to listen people who have been there.
it would appear that you not only have a misconception of what a cna does but you also have a misconception of what an rn does and that is sad being it is the career you have chosen to do and is one that involves other peoples lives... not just your own.
if this post has been misunderstood as well, please help me to understand what you are really trying to say.
i've also noticed on the site that people really don't feel they cannot 'be honest' and express their true feelings, so i am unsure as to why you feel this thread would be any different.
Feb 7, '07Joined: Feb '07; Posts: 10; Likes: 4Without "CNAS" the work would not get done period. CNA'S are our eyes and ears alot of the time... We work as a team and without all members of the team working together who would suffer?. The PATIENT! If you are not a team player please reconsider a different career path. As for me I value all members of our team notice I didn't use the word I, why because it's not about me, it's about patients...
Feb 7, '07Occupation: ED RN Specialty: ED ; From: US ; Joined: Jan '05; Posts: 1,312; Likes: 1,098Quote from kikuyuDefilnatly the vicks vapor rub under a mask would work. I have a pretty strong stomach and I'm able to get around it most of the time by breathing through my mouth instead of my nose. That and just the vision of me being one of the patient that I take care of every day with poop on my bottom and I'm pretty humble.What can one do to prevent from puking or gagging when cleaning poop or puke? I have a very sensitive stomach and gag when changing my child.
Please give me tips.
Feb 7, '07Occupation: Hospital Staff Nurse Specialty: PEDS ~ PP ~ NNB & LII Nursery ; From: US ; Joined: Sep '06; Posts: 280; Likes: 30lookingforward ~ If you find yourself in the situation of being an RN and need to clean up your poor pt that has had a horrible bout with their bowels, please PLEASE don't let your feelings show on your face or in your voice! It is horribly devistating to them and won't do much for your pt/nurse relationship.
You can 'dislike' it all you want but can NEVER let your pt know!
Feb 7, '07Occupation: Registered Nurse: Assertive Community Resource Team Specialty: Psych, Assertive Community Resource Team ; Joined: Apr '06; Posts: 61; Likes: 41I think everyone is being a little harsh on looking forward... all she is saying is that she doesn't like changing briefs and aspires to do more with her life and career...not that she hates all old people who are incontinent and would let them lie in their own mess rather than clean it up.
I personally hate my clinicals because it seems like all we do is aide work. It is not that difficult to master and I got the system down two semesters ago...yet, still, everyday all I do is bed baths and linens changes with a few procedures thrown in every once in a while. I do what I have to with a smile because it isn't that patient's fault I'm not that into the traditional "nursing" care. I knew going into nursing school that I wouldn't really like clinicals because that isn't what I want to do with my degree. I have no desire to do bedside nursing. Psych is my area, I've worked in it for years, and I want to continue on with my education and become a nurse practioner or get involved in research. This is my path...everyone has to find their own. I think it is rather small minded to say that all nurses have to think one particular way.
I'll be more than happy when I graduate and never have to touch a brief again. Does that make me a bad person? I don't know maybe. I have so much respect and gratitude for those nurses and cna's out there that do that kind of work, and enjoy it. They are truly special people who deserve every happiness. Like I said everyone has their own path...I've had nursing students come to the psych hospital where I work and say that they don't know how we do it. They would much rather deal with body fluids and fecal matter all day then wrangle a psychotic who is bouncing off the walls, but that is what I love. To each their own.
With that said, looking forward, I would also offer you the advice that if you truly want to work with babies in the nursery you had probably better skip the LPN and get your RN. The hospitals in my area won't hire any LPNs and the ones that they grandfathered in all got forced to move to the Med\Surg floor. Good luck in whatever you decide to do.