Fired for Falsifying Documents. What to expect - page 3

Today is extremely difficulty for me. I just started this new job that I absolutely love. I work in a very busy hallway and popped a noon med for one of my residents. I placed it in the med cart and... Read More

  1. by   LPNewbie
    I accept full responsibility for my med error. In the past, I was for lack of better words "careless" and didn't pay as much attention as I did. I used those experiences to work to the best of my ability at this job. I made a mistake. I did. But this is the first med error I've ever made at this new job.
  2. by   LPNewbie
    Yes, I realize my mistake and vow to never "early document" again.
  3. by   LPNewbie
    Thank you. I really needed this.
  4. by   QuietIsntAWord
    I'm still confused by what you meant saying the med cart had been messed up for awhile now but now they are trying to blame you for it being messed up. Could you please clarify?
  5. by   LPNewbie
    Meds are supposed to be given according to the day. For example. When you get a blister pack, you get 30. We get fresh packs on the first of each month. So therefore, on day 1, we pop pill 30. On day 2, we pop pill 29. And so on. I noticed that in the evening spot, some meds were not being popped. Furthermore, on the days I WAS OFF, I saw that some pills were not popped. So when they saw my pills in the top drawer, they assumed this was me who messed the carts up.
  6. by   SpankedInPittsburgh
    LPNewbie, All Nurses make mistakes. We aren't perfect. I don't think this is gonna be any sort of hanging offense with the BON & I rarely say nice things about that gaggle of vampires. Anyway, learn from your mistake, have a cry if it will help and move on. That sounds harsh but in my experience its life. Good Luck & Gods Speed.
  7. by   Davey Do
    Quote from LPNewbie
    Thank you. I really needed this.
    Hey LPNewbie- do us a favor and use the quote button at the bottom of the post to which you're reponding so we know to who you are replying.

    Sound advice:
    Quote from QuietIsntAWord
    Go to HR!!!!
    Objectively document facts of the situation and the outcomes. Use quotations of conversations to the best of your memory. This process will not only assist you in getting your story straight, keep pertinent facts in your mind, but will act as a catharsis for you.

    I have documented numerous situations in my nursing career and this process has been an extremely useful tool when dealing with situations such as this.

    My process is to write or type out facts randomly: names, dates, situations, what was said, etc, whatever comes to mind. EVERYTHING. Then, I arrange everything in a chronological order so my documentation flows like a story from the start to the finish.

    We are here as your virtual supporters, LPNewbie and wish to see that you get the realistic and fair treatment you deserve!
    Last edit by Davey Do on Feb 21
  8. by   QuietIsntAWord
    Oh okay, I see. We use blister packs where I work as well, but we just reorder when they start getting low. We don't actually count them (that would take forever!). Sometimes medications may not be "popped" due to the patient was out of the facility, or there were orders to hold a certain medication... or even the patient refused it. So, I don't think the blister packs being off is any type of "proof" that you were solely responsible for messing it up. Or any type of proof period unless it is a narcotic which should be signed out.

    I really think you were fired unjustly and should go over their heads, not to necessarily get your job back but to make sure this doesn't hurt you from attaining a new position somewhere else.
  9. by   ItsThatJenGirl
    Do you know if you were reported to the BON for the previous med errors that you were fired for? That would by my main concern regarding your license. I'm not sure there is much you can do but wait to see if you hear anything.

    It sounds like the place you were working wasn't a good environment. I wish the best for you.
  10. by   Jedrnurse
    I'm curious- was the friend of the ED who made med errors fired at the time as well...?
  11. by   NunNurseCat
    You made a med error, not a chart falsification. Your intent is important.

    You did this by mistake, so it's an error. If you had gone back and altered the chart to cover up your mistake THAT would be falsification.
  12. by   QuietIsntAWord
    Also, just to add on about the blister packs. Some months have more or less than 30 days and sometimes they get more than one pill a day. I'm not sure how they are using them being "off" as leverage to fire you. The only time we are concerned with how many are left in a pack is if there is a significant amount missing when it's not time to reorder or when there is a significant amount left when it should be time to reorder.
  13. by   OldDude
    Quote from NunNurseCat
    You made a med error, not a chart falsification. Your intent is important.

    You did this by mistake, so it's an error. If you had gone back and altered the chart to cover up your mistake THAT would be falsification.
    This is the core of the can't falsify something without an intentional action on your's an error. Don't back down.