Excessive Absenteeism in the Nursing Profession - page 2

Is excessive absenteeism a problem in your healthcare setting? First of all, let's discuss my definition of excessive absenteeism. Of course, absenteeism is the absence of a staff member from a... Read More

  1. by   Aunt Slappy
    These articles..... they read like 5 paragraph essays my kids learned to do in junior high.

    Excessive absenteeism is caused by crappy staffing decisions by management. Period. Fatigue, burnout, injuries, and even illness mostly stem from these staffing devisions. Stop screwing your floor nurses in the name of the Almighty Dollar and then berating them when their pillow-fluffing scores aren't high enough, and you'll see attendance improve. CNAs/techs too. You people are killing support staff with the patient loads and physical expectations you dump on them.
  2. by   traumaRUs
    Quote from Aunt Slappy
    These articles..... they read like 5 paragraph essays my kids learned to do in junior high.

    Excessive absenteeism is caused by crappy staffing decisions by management. Period. Fatigue, burnout, injuries, and even illness mostly stem from these staffing devisions. Stop screwing your floor nurses in the name of the Almighty Dollar and then berating them when their pillow-fluffing scores aren't high enough, and you'll see attendance improve. CNAs/techs too. You people are killing support staff with the patient loads and physical expectations you dump on them.
    The general purpose of articles is to stimulate discussion and absenteeism is a topic mentioned often on AN.

    So - what would be your solution?
  3. by   Jedrnurse
    "We are all aware of the global nursing shortage."

    Sigh. The propaganda continues...
  4. by   Aunt Slappy
    Quote from traumaRUs
    The general purpose of articles is to stimulate discussion and absenteeism is a topic mentioned often on AN.

    So - what would be your solution?
    Already told you.

    Quote from Aunt Slappy
    Stop screwing your floor nurses in the name of the Almighty Dollar and then berating them when their pillow-fluffing scores aren't high enough
  5. by   MasterStreet
    Quote from Aunt Slappy
    These articles..... they read like 5 paragraph essays my kids learned to do in junior high.

    Excessive absenteeism is caused by crappy staffing decisions by management. Period. Fatigue, burnout, injuries, and even illness mostly stem from these staffing devisions. Stop screwing your floor nurses in the name of the Almighty Dollar and then berating them when their pillow-fluffing scores aren't high enough, and you'll see attendance improve. CNAs/techs too. You people are killing support staff with the patient loads and physical expectations you dump on them.
    Unfortunately, your comment displays another problem in nursing, "no accountability" not to mention your attempt to insult my intelligence. Professional courtesy in nursing also a problem, I must decide which of these issues I should do a 5 paragraph essay on next.
  6. by   brandy1017
    To Masterstreet you sound like one of the pearls and pump brigade who look down on the nurses who do the actual patient care. Your contempt and lack of respect for nurses is dripping in your comments. I imagine if someone is excessively absent as you describe they are smart enough to be using FMLA which legally protects them from the discipline and termination which you obviously favor. I imagine you are one of the leaders who are not hands on, who do not step in to help the team, just berate them and tell them it's their coworker's fault for calling in when you choose to short staff them rather than hire enough staff in the first place or have a contingency plan in place with float pool or agency to cover call offs as you should, as is your responsibility.

    I'm so sick and tired of being told as a nurse I'm too important to dare to get sick or need a day off and too important to go home after 12 hours when they mandate us for 16 hours due to short staffing that is the fault of management refusing to hire adequate staff in the first place and not having contingency staff in place to save money. They know they can't keep us past 16 hours and will have to come up with another arrangement so they should be able to do the same in the first place!

    I've been a nurse long enough to know that staffing ebbs and flows and there is always some degree of turnover. Management over the years has used many different methods to deal with staffing from mandation to agency, float pool, weekend program or not, travelers at times, nurses from India at times, to bonus and overtime to encourage staff to pick up. They have many options in their tool belt to cover staff shortages. Yet you want to wring your hands and blame the nurses for daring to get sick or having a family emergency. How dare you! Don't you know you are too important to call off for any reason! Like we are school children, such disrespect!

    Since the current corporate takeover staffing has been worse than over because management is staffing for "average" census, not for a full census, which leaves half the night shift mandated if we are full! This is utterly ridiculous! Also, they are extremely slow to hire replacements for all the nurses who have left in droves since Wrongway Regional Medical Center took over. The ICU is in shatters, to the point where the tele floor is routinely getting ICU patients as they don't have nurses in the ICU. I recently had a patient with a glucose almost 1,000! Totally unsafe!

    There is no reason management can't hire enough nurses and staff with enough nurses to run a hospital and have a contingency in place for call-offs and people off on FLMA. Let's face it, it is a female-dominated job and many women routinely take 3 months off when they have their children so management should have contingency plans in place already. Don't blame the nurses because you are running too lean and mean and too cheap to hire adequate staff and too haughty to step in and take an assignment!
    Last edit by brandy1017 on Sep 25
  7. by   MasterStreet
    Quote from brandy1017
    You sound like one of the pearls and pump brigade who look down on the nurses who do the actual patient care. Your contempt and lack of respect for nurses is dripping in your comments. I imagine if someone is excessively absent as you describe they are smart enough to be using FMLA which legally protects them from discipline and termination which you obviously favor. I imagine you are one of the leaders who are not hands on, who do not step in to help the team, just berate them and tell them it's their coworker's fault for calling in when you choose to short staff them rather than hire enough staff in the first place or have a contingency plan in place with float pool or agency to cover call offs as you should, as is your responsibility. I'm so sick and tired of being told as a nurse I'm too important to dare to get sick or need a day off and too important to go home after 12 hours when they mandate us for 16 hours due to short staffing that is the fault of management refusing to hire adequate staff in the first place and not having contingency staff in place to save money. They know they can't keep us past 16 hours and will have to come up with another arrangement so they should be able to do the same in the first place!

    I've been a nurse long enough to know that staffing ebbs and flows and there is always some degree of turnover. Management over the years has used many different methods to deal with staffing from mandation to agency, float pool, weekend program or not, travelers at times, nurses from India at times, to bonus and overtime to encourage staff to pick up. They have many options in their tool belt to cover staff shortages. Yet you want to wring your hands and blame the nurses for daring to get sick or having a family emergency. How dare you! Don't you know you are too important to call off for any reason! Like we are school children, such disrespect!

    Since the current corporate takeover staffing has been worse than over because management is staffing for "average" census, not for full census, which leaves half the night shift mandated if we are full! This is utterly ridiculous! Also extremely slow to hire replacements for all the nurses who have left in droves since Wrongway Regional Medical Center took over. The ICU is in shatters, to the point where the tele floor is routinely getting ICU patients as they don't have nurses in the ICU. I recently had a patient with a glucose almost 1,000! Totally unsafe!

    There is no reason management can't hire enough nurses and staff enough nurses to run a hospital and have a contigency in place for calloffs and people off on FLMA. Let's face it, it is a female dominated job and many women routinely take 3 months off when they have their children so management should have contingency plans in place already. Don't blame the nurses because you are running too lean and mean and too cheap to hire adequate staff and too haughty to step in and take an assignment!
    No actually, I am one of the bedside nurses who provides hands-on patient care who's tired of picking up the slack for nurses who are habitually absent without FMLA. Thank you
  8. by   Aunt Slappy
    Quote from MasterStreet
    Unfortunately, your comment displays another problem in nursing, "no accountability" not to mention your attempt to insult my intelligence.
    Let's be clear: I insulted your writing ability, not your intelligence. As to accountability, I'd say brandy here addressed that. Pretty sure her post represents both barrels.

    Quote from brandy1017
    You sound like one of the pearls and pump brigade who look down on the nurses who do the actual patient care. Your contempt and lack of respect for nurses is dripping in your comments........

    Don't blame the nurses because you are running too lean and mean and too cheap to hire adequate staff and too haughty to step in and take an assignment!
  9. by   brandy1017
    Quote from MasterStreet
    No actually, I am one of the bedside nurses who provides hands-on patient care who's tired of picking up the slack for nurses who are habitually absent without FMLA. Thank you
    You are blaming the wrong people for the short staffing. Management has plenty of options they simply have to hire and spend the money. Truth is it is cheaper to short staff, blame the coworker who calls out, keep the budget low, and cash in their bonus at the end of the year! That is the truth!
  10. by   Aunt Slappy
    Quote from MasterStreet
    No actually, I am one of the bedside nurses who provides hands-on patient care who's tired of picking up the slack for nurses who are habitually absent without FMLA. Thank you
    That's still a management problem. If they gave a crap about attendance, they'd discipline absentee nurses, up to and including termination. I've seen some insane attendance policies and overly punitive will backfire, but people shouldn't be comfortable with just calling off whenever they feel like it. You're never going to change low quality people, you can only run them off and work on hiring higher quality people.

    I still maintain, though, that most employees are good ones and want to be so, but chronic short staffing burns people out and they will call out due to not being able to take it anymore.
  11. by   rearviewmirror
    Pfffff! Piece of cake! When there's short staff, make the ADMINISTRATORS run the floor!
  12. by   Jedrnurse
    Quote from rearviewmirror
    Pfffff! Piece of cake! When there's short staff, make the ADMINISTRATORS run the floor!
    Oh, boy. Sentinel events galore...
  13. by   brandy1017
    Quote from rearviewmirror
    Pfffff! Piece of cake! When there's short staff, make the ADMINISTRATORS run the floor!
    If they actually did they would be quicker to hire enough nurses for sure!

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