Disgruntled is putting it mildly... need input ! - page 3

OK for those of you who may have answers... As most of you know already, I LOVE where I work.. love my patients, love what I do, and dearly love my DON and coworkers. But the HUGE, national... Read More

  1. by   jnette
    Thanx, you all... your responses have been great, and I sure do appreciate them !

    After I left work yesterday, our DON got with our regional mgr. and asked to clarify this "new" policy. According to the reg. mgr., it was not the company's policy per say, but one which was just initiated by the company's East Business Unit. (something they devised to spare the inservice trainer from having to travel to all the units... just have a "centralized unit" for the meeting and all staff from all the clinics with in so many miles are to attend at said centralized unit)... AND, I was WRONG ! It's even WORSE than what I said ! Our total reimbursement.. get this(!)...is:
    (talking gas/mileage now)

    15 miles.. no reimbursement
    15-30 miles.. $2.50 a day
    30-50 miles..$5.00 a day
    50-75 miles..$7.50 a day
    greater than 75 miles $10.00 a day.

    Can you believe that? So if I were to have to drive a hundred miles or more, I'd get a whole ten bucks for my gas, wear and tear on the vehicle, and still no traveltime..???? HAR !!! That's just about FUNNY ! ( I'm liking my avatar more and more as each day passes... )

    Here's exactly how the email/letter was worded:

    "All clinic staffs are required to attend Mandatory Inservices annually which are provided in the centralized classrooms adn is a condition of their employment. (not when I started there 6 years ago!)
    In order to (get this.. what a JOKE) 'assist' (huh???) the employee in compliance with their training, alternate payment for travel assistance have been developed which supercedes the company mileage reimbursement policy.

    Exsisting emplyees attending mandatory inservices in the centralized classroom will be reimbursed according to the zone assigned to their clinic. The distance between each clinic and their classroom has been measured using MapQuest and the facilities' addresses."

    Is that a rip, or what?

    Sooooooo... got on the horn with our DON today on her day off and she said that yes, even our regional mgr. agreed this was BS, and that each staff should voice their disagreement with this policy in EACH unit (and there are MANY).. and that the DON of each unit should then forward them to the BIG "area" mgr. and press them to change this piece of garbage they just put out.

    In the meantime, no more traveling anywhere unless I get the proper mileage AND the time spent on the road ! Ain't doin' it.. just ain't gonna happen. Nope. They can all just BITE ME !!!
    Last edit by jnette on Jul 17, '03
  2. by   purplemania
    the mileage is tax deduction probably, but that is very small compensation to actually laying out cash for gas and not being paid for time you traveled. What would happen if you DID NOT go to a mandatory meeting??? Sorta like the old saying: what if they had a war and nobody came?
  3. by   colleen10
    Were you told that you would not receive pay for the hours that you were travelling in the car?

    I would try to be sneaky and put it on my time card anyway and see if they would pay it.
  4. by   jnette
    Originally posted by colleen10
    Were you told that you would not receive pay for the hours that you were travelling in the car?

    I would try to be sneaky and put it on my time card anyway and see if they would pay it.
    Yep.. we were told they won't give us anything for the traveltime.

    Don't want to do anything sneaky.. just want them to know how we FEEL about this, and that we won't tolerate it. Tell them up front that next time, not to expect us to show if we're not being compensated, that's all. I'd rather be up front and straightforward. Then when it happens again, I can tell them that I made my point clear and had told them what to expect.

    But, we WIL be sending a letter.. all the various units... and hopefully this will be reconsidered.

    I do appreciate everyone's input... y'all are good buds !
  5. by   VickyRN
    I just wouldn't go, Jnette. Be a NO SHOW. What's the worst thing they can do?--Fire you? There are nursing jobs everywhere now, so you don't need these losers.
  6. by   P_RN
    Suggest this. Have the "trainer" videotape the lecture/class whatever and mail copies to each facility. You could then watch them as a group or check them out overnight and watch at home. Sheesh it sounds as if the inmates are running the institution.
  7. by   mattsmom81
    The videotape idea is a great one...hope you can talk them into it.That long drive is too inconvenient and they have gaul to expect this, IMHO.

    I've noticed my coworkers tend to get passive aggressive about this kind of required inservicing, etc. Maybe it's a goodthing...LOL. While I'm the kind that shows up, (feeling inconvenienced), just trying to get it over with and out of the way, many of my coworkers just don't bother.

    Then 3 months later one of the educators notices that 90% of the staff hasn't attended her 'mandatory' inservice, so she scrambles to find out why, and ends up being a tad more accommodating.
    Last edit by mattsmom81 on Jul 18, '03
  8. by   hennys
    charge it to them!
    or find a new place that doesnt do these things.
  9. by   Spidey's mom
    Our inservices are held at our hospital, which is a mile from my home so I'm pretty lucky. However, our ACLS and PALS classes will no longer be held at our hospital, since the hospital that did the outreach classes is no longer able to (Tenet hospital). So, we drive 75 miles one way (Jnette - I can make it in an hour and 15 minutes!! . . . . . . . . but we do get reimbursed mileage and get paid for the day. I just took a neonatal resucitation class at Mercy in Redding. Got reimbursed for the class and could have gotten mileage but I didn't ask for it. We are having financial difficulties here . .small rural hospital with medicare reimbursement problems. :-)

    I think I'd refuse to go Jnette . . ..and complain loudly.

  10. by   jnette
    See above re the video taping.. we already WATCHED all the videos at home (four hours worth).. the meeting was a RECAP of everything we watched.. totally unneccessary in my view. 8 hours of discussing and rehashing what we watched at home already.. and quizzes on them.

    They have a nurses' technical trainng session coming up in a few weeks.. at the same place. My coworkers were already asking who was going to drive... iI looked at them in disbelief! I said "don't you GET it"? If we keep going, they'll keep expecting us to !" They hate it and gripe about it as much as I, but none are willing to be bold enough to refuse to go... I know if all 6 of us just didn't show, including our DON, they'd surely notice.. and no way would they fire the entire clinic staff ! But ppl here are so afraid of losing their jobs.. a mentality they were raised with here. Very, very sad. So we'll see. I'm not going. Not this kid. I don't steal the company's time, I don't expect the company to steal mine.
    It's not the drive.. it's a BEAUTIFUL drive all through the mts. of West Va. ... really pretty. And I love to drive ! It's the PRINCIPAL.. I should be getting paid for my time to get there.. plus appropriate mileage. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

    Anyway.. we are all turning in a letter to our DON per her request and she will be fwd.ing them along with hers to our Area Mgr. to voice our discontent with this policy. ( and in the meantinme, the others will continue to go.. like lambs to the slaughter...) aaaaaaaaargh !!!