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Convicted killer's transplant sparks ethical debate Many argue inmate is not entitled to donated liver YORK, Neb., Feb. 28- Farmer Calvin Stock's life was saved by a liver transplant three... Read More

  1. by   Tilleycs
    Originally posted by nurseleigh
    I agree with part of this. I don't think that prisoners deserve cable, or a fitness center that probably rivals any that I would have to pay dearly to use. But a lot of the rest of that is basic necessities of life. Food, water, clothing, a bed.

    I mean, really, how humane would it be to deny them those things?
    To clarify, I'm not against them getting food, beds, or basic medical care - I'm against them getting it for FREE (i.e., you and I having to pay for it). I think they should have to work (either at the prison, on a road crew, or off-site on work release) and EARN it.
  2. by   donormom
    As an active supporter of organ donation, I hate to see all the negative posts.

    I hope the issue of the prisoners getting an organ is not the only reason for changing some of your minds about organ donation.

    Last summer our family was proud to represent our state as a donor family at the National Transplant Games in Orlando, FL.

    It was awesome!! Seeing happy and healthy recipients participating in activities that would make it hard to believe all that they had been through.

    There are many happy stories of organ donation. Our is one of them. Please read the story of our daughter's donation at

    Maybe it will give a positve aspect to the donation idea. The press certainly needs that right now!!

  3. by   Sally_ICURN
    Karen (donormom!), thank you for bringing your own personal story to share and for bringing life and joy into this discussion.

    Organ donation is a profoundly unselfish gift and the most giving thing that a human can do for another human. Having lost, very recently, a good friend to complications from a transplant and as a nurse who works with post-op thoracic transplant patients, I can assure you that I love what I do and so does every person on our unit that I come into contact with, from the housekeepers to the physicians. Each and every single person including the donor and the recipient and all the families involved are unique individuals. I think I can speak for my team when I say we know and admire the life changing circumstances that surround organ donation and tranplantation, and we care.

    Your children are beautiful!
  4. by   Tephra
    Just wanted to add a little bit here -- I lurk more than post but I always appreciate the wide variety of folks and thoughts on here. :^)

    I'm in Tranplant ICU (liver/kidney/pancreas). More of our liver patients are Hep C than ETOH, but many suffer from both. Patients are required to be "dry" for at least 6 months, more often a year. They pass an extended evaluation process that includes a social worker's estimation of their psychologic state/social resources and support. Most people can and DO stay sober before and after transplant! (Not all -- I've been at the bedsides of two men who started drinking again after their liver transplants. They both died. I assure you, *neither* would have been re-evaluated for another transplant.)

    Deciding when to transplant is a fine line -- the patient must be sick enough to need it urgently, and yet healthy enough to survive the surgery and recover. Likely, both Mickey Mantle and Erma Bombeck were too close to the edge of their illness when they got their transplants. But that's not just celebs... it happens on a daily basis with us "regular" folks too.

    Personally, I don't care who gets my organs when I don't need them anymore. My husband has instructions to "part me out". I've shared the sorrow of too many families waiting on the organ that didn't come in time.

    (That said, I do respect others' choices!

    {{{donormom}}} Thanks for sharing your story. Lovely little 'claine!
  5. by   donormom
    Thank you Sally and Tephra for taking time to look at our website. I would love to work with transplants, but it won't happen any time soon because our small hospital doesn't handle transplants.

    I am thrilled to say that we have recently had several organ recoveries at our facility. Usually we transfer anything that might be a candidate, so they can get the advantage of specialists before donation is considered an option.

    Like you, I do respect others' choices, but do want to make sure they have enough info to make informed decisions!

  6. by   NurseGirlKaren

    Read your website. What a very touching story. God bless.