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This is going to be a "longey", so I apologize in advance. I have lots to say. This is in chronological order. I should tell you up-front, that all of these occurences, other than 2, have occured "in private", with no witnesses.

My nursing unit's Christmas party, for various reasons, was cancelled and is now rebooked for not a dinner, but a luncheon, on February 8th. I've now found out that it is going to be used as a "going-away" party for my unit manager, who is moving to another hospital. Although I had signed up to go to the original function, I have changed my mind and am getting some "flack" from my co-workers.

My unit manager has been that since 1995. She is UM for several units, and I also work permanent evening shift, so I don't see her very often (one way to keep my sanity). When she first became UM, one of my co-workers (who still works in the unit) informed her that another co-worker (whom the UM had a past history with and disliked intensely) and I were "best friends". It wasn't true, quite the opposite, but I was never asked.

Several weeks after "Joan" (pseudonym) was told this, she tapped me on the shoulder and whispered in my ear "I think that it would be a good idea if you found yourself a different friend". I was, to put it mildly, surprised that she would even think that what I did outside of work was her business.

Eventually, this staff member departed for "greener pastures", but it seems as if "Joan" decided that, since she can't get at "Lois" (pseudonym) in person, she'd "get at her" through me. At least, that's how it's felt for the past 7 1/2 years.

I have a MsN (and am finally, after a number of years, finishing up a PhD in anthropology, an interest of mine). I also have postgraduate certificates in operating room nursing and neonatal nursing.

In front of several patients, "Joan" announced that she "felt" "as if you have very little basic nursing knowledge". ALL of my co-workers just turned and looked at her. I decided that she, who neither has a degree nor has even finished her managerial certificate, must be very insecure around someone with more education. I've never "rubbed her nose in it" either.

I take transit. She suggested that "you buy a car and become normal, like everyone else". In front of a patient. But not in front of staff.

I was working on updating my post-graduate nursing course in neonatology, had taken ALL of the theory courses, and needed a "workplace reference" from my unit manager. She wrote on the required form (I still have it, by the way) that "I have been asked to give a workplace reference for this nurse. This course has nothing to do with her current employment". No reference, no clinicals. I was out >$4000 in tuition expenses and had 2 years of studying (part-time) go "right down the tube".

My son died August 28th, 1997. When I came back from my stress leave of 15 weeks, she took me into her office and said "Eric's dead. Get over it". This is a woman who has never been married, has no children, raises dogs. And, no, I've never gotten over it. No one "gets over" their child dying.

Whenever I have asked to have the anniversary of his death off, I've been turned down. "Prime time", "not enough seniority".

My university advisor for my PhD told me that he had recommended that I be a part of a panel discussion. Two months prior to it's occurence. I requested an "LOA" for that date, with the reasons, and submitted it to "Joan". She turned me down flat, "too many staff off on that date". Another graduate student took my place. When the day rolled around, she was the only staff member off. I've never been asked to take part in a panel discussion again.

Two years after her brother died, my one remaining child, my daughter, turned the same age as her brother when he died. My daughter had an emotional meltdown and had to be hospitalized. The day that I had to have her admitted to the psychiatric unit was my day off. I spoke with my CRN and asked for the next day off as a "family emergency leave day". Ruth agreed (she has kids). When I got home the next night, from the hospital, I had a message on my answering maching from "Joan". "Just who do you think you are, asking for an FELD". I'm not okaying it, and you'll get no pay for it. Phone me on Monday (which was another day off of mine) and explain your behavior".

I actually phoned back and let a message on her answering machine, apologizing. Okay, so I grew up with a Scottish Presbyterian mother, the closest thing to a Jewish mother that you can get without being Jewish. And am a Southerner to boot. Genetically cursed with guilt. LOL. After I hung up, I thought, screw that, called her back and left 2 messages, tellling her that the morale in the unit was lousy, and that, like Harry Truman, the buck stopped at the top, with her. I also told her that I would not be phoning her and, furthermore, I would never speak of this with her, period. I actually was astonished that I still had a job when I went to work on Tuesday.

I have tried to "get out from under" by applying to two other units (for which I am WELL qualified educationally) in my hospital. I've also applied to another hospital, although this meant that I would lose my seniority. I've actually had the managers leave message on my answering machine, "phone back, I'd like to talk to you". When I've returned the calls, they were always "not in at the moment". None of them ever returned my phone calls. What I found out was that, in fact, my UM refused to give me a reference.

The final straw was being turned down for my "1st choice" vacation request for this year. My daughter-in-law is Japanese. Her father collects rose petals, and makes a point of going up to where Eric's ashes are scattered on Mt Fuji, on his birthday and anniversary of his death. He and Naoko go there often, but he goes specifically on these two days.

On those two dates, Eibou goes to the site, and performs a Buddhist ceremony in honor of Eric, burning incense and sprinkling petals.

I specifically requested the last week of August off, writing on the request form that I wanted to go to "this special ceremony, given in honor of my son's memory". We "plot" our vacation requests on a big wall calendar, and I had written next to this request "to go to Japan". I was told to erase my "reason", otherwise "your co-workers will feel obligated to rearrange their vacation requests". "Since this is a very special reason for that time, I'll give it serious consideration". She turned me down flat, "not enough seniority".

I tend to run under the theory that "you can go for me if you want, but touch my kids and you're dead meat".

I have a "benign soft murmur". When I "stress", I shunt. It's not much fun, rather frightening in fact. When I was originally diagnosed two years ago, I had ALL the classic symptoms of an MI. I wore a holter monitor for 24 hours, turned out I was allergic to it's "stickies". LOL. I now take an antihypersensive and, for my own sanity, an anti-depressant. I also "grind my teeth".

I've hung in with this job for so long because I like what I do. I also like my "permanent line", and having weekends/statuatory holidays off isn't bad either. I'm also retiring in another 3 years, 8 months, 6 days, but who's counting.

On the day that my UM announced that she was going to be leaving shortly, I'd actually come to work with my resignation. I'd decided that I just couldn't deal with this woman, who'd made my life a living hell, anymore. Didn't know what I was going to do but knew that it was either she had to go or me. Figured it was going to be me. I was wrong. I suspect that my BP dropped right back to normal.

I spent 4 years in the USAF and am well aware that one does not have to either like or personally respect the person wearing the rank, one just salutes the collar dog. I don't feel that I owe this woman any respect, and by going to "her" party, I'd be giving it.

So, am I being "childish" as one of my co-worker's has said. Or "going to ruin the occasion" if I'm not there? "After all, Katherine, she's leaving". Or should I go and be my usual polite self, smiling at her and silently wishing her good riddance?

Thanks for letting me emote about this.

Specializes in Trauma,ER,CCU/OHU/Nsg Ed/Nsg Research.

I say GO- and pull her quietly aside, away from earshot of everybody else, and say every last little thing you wanted to say to her while she was your boss. Smile the entire time your doing this, so others will think you're having a perfectly amiable conversation. What a perfect opportunity to cuss her out and let her know just exactly how vile and evil she really is. Get it out of your system. What could she possibly do to you then? Let her know how long you have hoped for this day. Then hang around as long as possible and PARTY IT UP!

This woman sounds like a soap opera villiam. too horrid to be true. Attending a lunch is the least of the issues that come to mind. Does your facility have a stress and health center? I predict in the end, you may be her superior some day! Just hope you don't squash her like a cockroach... Hang in their, you are going places and she will be a bad memory. Hug your kids!

What this poster is saying is so reprehensible that I almost don't believe it. You mean, there are seriously people out there like this nurse manager? If that were me, I wouldn't think twice about not going. Why would you go to a celebration of a person who you don't like, especially if she is abusive towards you? I would tll her not to let the door hit her in the ass on the way out. :(

I wouldn't go, you know when I deal with mean cold hearted people I always remember something I have a very strong beleif in, in the end everybody gets what they deserve. What comes around goes around.

Nearly eight years is a long time, I hope your life improves from now on. I think you should attend to show you are not scared of her, and in wardly 'gloat' and celebrate and enjoy the moment.............lol :) Don't let anyone walk over you again, put them straight about facts, and make a lot of fuss. 'been there, done it, I have met people like her - they havn't got a clue what mayhem they cause, but they are scheaming personalities, who prefer to see their own point of view, without listening to others, and are in positions of authority, because they are so convicing when they are going after what they want to achieve, and are only able to remain in their job because, most people can't be bothered challenge them, or are afraid to, or it does't affect them or actually assists them - because they see her weaknesses and probably benefit from them, (it does't stress them too much)because she doesn't see their weaknesses, faults ect....... but its great when you make that step which is really a giant leap for 'standing up for yourself and what you represent'

I have read this enitre thread and have just seethed with horror and disgust and loathing along with everyone else. And then I read your new news and the expressions of elation and have just been grinning like a fool.

Sweetpea, use the talents that God saw fit to bestow on you when He made you Southern and go and kill her slowly with the coldest kindness she ever saw! I am (almost) envious of you for having such a delicious opportunity for revenge. Would it be possible to have a friend there with a camcorder so you can relive this sweet moment again and again?

What goes around does come around, and you are actually there to see it! You must let us know how this goes! We are all on pins and needles!

My heart goes out to you for the death of your son; I am so thankful you will have this opportunity to honor his memory.

[Loud Rebel yell inserted here, from one Southern lady to another] Awesome!

:chuckle :roll :D :kiss :balloons:

Christen

Originally posted by ChristenLPN

Sweetpea, use the talents that God saw fit to bestow on you when He made you Southern

--Can I just say how much I love this?? And I'm not even Southern!
...and go and kill her slowly with the coldest kindness she ever saw! I am (almost) envious of you for having such a delicious opportunity for revenge.
See, this is exactly how I feel. Probably because I am evil. Revenge isn't always best served cold. ;) :devil:
Specializes in Med-Surg Nursing.

jurbyjunk,

Congratulations on your new position! I know that you'll be the BEST UM ever! Good Luck!

Kelly:)

Specializes in Med-surg; OB/Well baby; pulmonology; RTS.

I would not go to that party! She doesn't deserve your gracious company.....

I am sorry about your son....If she would have said that to me..........in the words of Vegas........SOMEONE HOLD MY PURSE!!!!! (I love this line.....so great:chuckle )

Normally, I am a sweet, demure, Southern girl too....but don't ever pi$$ me off:D

:o Oh sweetie, you're not wrong in this--why is this world so politically correct that we have to attend a party being thrown for someone we cant stand?? This woman can be attributed for alot of your life's anguish. Dont go hun, I sure as hell wouldn't

Take care:)

I'm stunned. I cannot believe how horrible this woman has been to you! If you went to her "Party" I'd be sorely dissappointed. This woman hasn't given you an ounce of respect.

I would recommend you have your own "Party" in celebration of her departure.

You've been through so much in you life! Just from the post I can tell you are a SURVIVOR. I applaud your ability to endure adversity and to strive for your goals.

I have a BA in anthropology with emphasis in Medical Anthropology and I'm currently in Nursing school. You do this job because you love people right? You want to accept people for who they are and provide them the best care right? Don't forget to care for yourself too!

You are amazing and I hate the fact that you have let this woman push you around.... Be proud of yourself, and tell your coworkers in a "nice way" that you have prior obligations and unfortunely can't make it to the party. You don't need to offer anything more...

Congratulations on your new position! I still sticking to my original post/opinion -- I would not go to a party in her honor. No way. You've received many posts of varying opinions whether to go or not -- have you made a decision? Truly, wish you the best of luck with your new position -- you will be such a breath of fresh air.

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