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Good story about the nursing shortage on tonight's ABC World News --thank you, Peter Jennings!... Read More

  1. by Love-A-Nurse
    Aug 8, '02
    Occupation: ADON-LTC Specialty: 19 year(s) of experience in LTC, ER, ICU, ; Joined: Feb '01; Posts: 5,856; Likes: 36
    originally posted by superman!
    "no one can make you feel inferior without your permission." author? you tell me.

    ~superman (lpn, rn, emt, and army medic!!)
    superman, you are correct; no one can make you feel inferior, unless you allow it, but lpns are not asking to be excluded from the nursing realm.
  2. by Love-A-Nurse
    Aug 8, '02
    Occupation: ADON-LTC Specialty: 19 year(s) of experience in LTC, ER, ICU, ; Joined: Feb '01; Posts: 5,856; Likes: 36
    by the way superman, welcome!
  3. by Love-A-Nurse
    Aug 8, '02
    Occupation: ADON-LTC Specialty: 19 year(s) of experience in LTC, ER, ICU, ; Joined: Feb '01; Posts: 5,856; Likes: 36
    my first thought to the article, where are the solutions to the root of the problem?

    are there any nurses who are reporters out there?
  4. by OC_An Khe
    Aug 8, '02
    Occupation: RN pacu CPAN Specialty: 40 year(s) of experience in Critical Care,Recovery, ED ; From: US ; Joined: Nov '00; Posts: 1,136; Likes: 721
    There was a good and new point to this story, and that is JCAHO using its own inadequate self reporting system has finally acknowledged that a shortage of RNs leads to patient deaths. To my memoery this is the first time that JCAHO acknowledged this impact of the RN shortage.
  5. by andrewsgranny
    Aug 8, '02
    Occupation: Office Nurse. Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 205; Likes: 32
    no one "can" make you feel inferior unless you let them. i dont feel inferior nor do i feel superior. just asking to be a part of the nursing realm. if we are good enough to teach,stick,chart,and whatever else our titles allow, then we should be counted in nursing polls of whatever the situation.just my 2 cents







  6. by fedupnurse
    Aug 8, '02
    Joined: May '02; Posts: 1,022; Likes: 64
    I love how my facility which has at least one administrator per patient bed, counts all the suits with RN after their name in the nursing numbers. The actual number of bedside caregivers is about 300 less than what is stated on their website for the numbers for my facility. What a joke. We had a picture where they boast these 400 plus nurses have something to smile about... and there were maybe 40 people in the picture. One person I worked with is literally standing next to herself. Isn't this called false advertising??????
    Nothing is going to change as long as these usiness people keep lying to the public and disregard the right way to run patient care areas of their hospitals. Remember, when they and theirs are patients, they get the red carpet treatment, often at the expense of other patients. It is this very commission, among many others, that do contribute to the problem with their ridiculous rules and paperwork that have no positive impact on patient care.
    Time these organizations and the stinking suits start to put their money where their mouths are!
  7. by Repat
    Aug 8, '02
    Occupation: RN Joined: Feb '02; Posts: 372; Likes: 15
    I read the article, and had basically the same response to it that all you out there have noted. Have any of you written Peter Jennings? There was an article in our local paper today to say that one of our state politicians, a nurse by profession who has three sisters who are nurses, would not allow one of her loved ones to go into the hospital by themselves these days. But that wasn't the headline, and you really had to read the article closely to find that bit of information. We have to make that kind of statement the headline. How do we do it?
  8. by Brigitasha
    Aug 8, '02
    Occupation: RN Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 4
    Superman, that would be Eleanor Roosevelt.
  9. by Brigitasha
    Aug 8, '02
    Occupation: RN Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 4
    Superman, that would be Eleanor Roosevelt.
  10. by melissa24
    Aug 8, '02
    Occupation: Home Schooling Mom/Home Health RN Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 92
    Originally posted by SuperMan!
    "No one can make you feel inferior without your permission." Author? You tell me.

    According to "The Princess Diaries" it was Eleanor Roosevelt.
  11. by teeituptom
    Aug 8, '02
    Occupation: ER RN Specialty: ER,ICU,L&D,OR,ETC ; Joined: May '01; Posts: 5,588; Likes: 566
    Howdy yall
    from deep in the heat of texas

    Why yall listen to peter jennings I dont know. He is a weasel and only out for himself
  12. by waicurn
    Aug 8, '02
    Occupation: RN Specialty: ICU, Transplant, Dialysis. ; Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 56; Likes: 4
    i sent my post that you see above to abc.com. hey, maybe the'll read it in tonight's dateline ! he-he . :d

    i was also reading us news and world report on "best hospitals in the us." and i noticed the top hospitals mostly have nurse to bed ratio of closer to around 2. and the not so good hospitals have ratios around 1.

    so, i was thinking, since we live in a capitalistic country and the paying consumers are one of our keys for leverage, it then would seem to make sense that we should push, encourage that number to be more visible, and it be considered by the general public to be a "key indicator" or quality of care they will receive....therefore, in choosing which hospital they will pay their patronage to (??)

    at the end, hospitals realizes consumers want more nurses, nurses want to be treated and paid more fairly, therefore, pay the nurses!!


    what do you think? too simple, or too obvious?
  13. by waicurn
    Aug 8, '02
    Occupation: RN Specialty: ICU, Transplant, Dialysis. ; Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 56; Likes: 4
    who's eleanor roosevelt?

    just kidding !

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