From a student, to, hospital floor nurses...

[mindlor]

If you want to ignore me and look at me cross eyed when I ask for report or try to give you report, or if you want to just flat look through me as if I were not even there, then guess what?

Do your own vitals!

Do your own code browns.

Make your own beds with the patients

I will sit and practice therapeutic communication with them while you wipe them down.

Now if you want to engage with me and show me a little respect/kindness then,

I will do all your vitals.

I will do all your code browns.

I will make your life a breeze.

The choice is yours.....

[All4Seasons]

Who taught me? Nursing faculty, that's who. In my day staff nurses were not expected to assume any responsibility for students. As a student I had almost zero contact with hospital staff. As it should be. As a staff nurse I did not appreciate being expected to teach students. It was not part of my job description. I had enough to do without the added responsibility. I didn't enjoy teaching. I didn't enjoy students (no offense). I wasn't being compensated for it. I didn't want cookies, muffins or Yankee candles at the end of the semester. I just wanted students to be taught by their faculty and to leave me alone. I really don't think that was asking too much.

I take it,then,that you were never assigned a night shift as a student? That's odd. Odder still if your instructor came in and did it with you,instead of you being buddied with a floor nurse.

[linearthinker, DNP, RN]

What? A night shift as a student? Of course not. I never heard of such a thing. We got our assignments the day before and had to research everything there was to know about our 2 patients and be prepared to answer any question about anything. We reported at about 0530 and answered questions to satisfy our instructor that we were adequately prepared to care for the patients that day. We worked from 0645 until 1515. We then met for post conference until about 1600. Then we got our new assignment for our next day and did the same thing all over again. 3 days a week for 2 years. There was one nursing instructor with about 6 students. We were not permitted to go anywhere without our partner. We never ever did a thing until we were checked off on it twice, and we never ever did a thing without our partner. We never gave meds of any kind or did treatments without our instructor present. Other than letting them know we were present and what we would like to do for the patient that day, we had almost zero contact with hospital staff. ZERO. We were not their responsibility. We tried our damnedest to stay out of their way, and they pretty much ignored us.

Buddies with a staff nurse? Ludicrous.

[All4Seasons]

Yawn... you did nothing different from what I (and likely most other student nurses) did,except,obviously,experience what happens on a typical night shift...just for the heck of it

[linearthinker, DNP, RN]

I simply described my experience further because it was held out, by you, to be somehow atypical. I believe you said "odd." Correct me if I am wrong, but am I understanding you to now be changing your position and saying that it is not in fact "odd," but completely typical after all? :icon_roll

What then, pray tell, is your bloody point?

[pockunit, ADN, RN]

I take it,then,that you were never assigned a night shift as a student? That's odd. Odder still if your instructor came in and did it with you,instead of you being buddied with a floor nurse.

In our program, no CI = no clinicals that day. Our teachers teach us. That's why they're there. The nurses are working. I find it odd that any program would operate in any other manner.

[OCNRN63, RN]

I take it,then,that you were never assigned a night shift as a student? That's odd. Odder still if your instructor came in and did it with you,instead of you being buddied with a floor nurse.

We sure did a night rotation in my school, and yes, our instructors were there with us as well.

[linearthinker, DNP, RN]

:taps foot impatiently:

Still waiting for explanation from All4Seasons on her abrupt 180* in this thread. I don't watch TV and don't have anything to read right now. I have all night. Let's hear it.

[iteachob, MSN, RN]

In our (local) teaching hospital, most nurses recognize their dual role in partnership with the University. The collaborative preceptor model is common. It surprises me that many on this thead are (seem to be) unaware of this.

I don't leave my students alone on the floor, but I do SO appreciate the support of staff.

[linearthinker, DNP, RN]

I am not unaware that it exists. I haven't worked in a University affiliated hospital setting in about 10 years. I am talking about community colleges dumping their students in the critical care unit with no formal assignment, no preparation, no guidelines, and no instructor. I find this grossly unacceptable.