Published Nov 6, 2008
918runnr
16 Posts
Hi,
I am 6 weeks away from finishing block I and I'm not understanding fluid and electrolytes. My instructor said this would be our hardest test. Well, she is right.
I was told to make a diagram to learn what goes where, but I'm so lost. Can anyone help a rookie out??
Tami
jesa
116 Posts
I think you might have to be more specific on this question...what is it you don't understand? the levels? what works with what? what does what?
I'm just starting this chapter and I'm already confused. Where to start............Hyper and Hyponatremia; osmolarity.....hyper & hypotonic solutions; ROME, and respiratory/metabolic acidosis/alkalosis. Why does your RRs change with each (respiratory or metabolic)? I'm a mess with this stuff.
This website said the best way to understand it is to make diagram of it. I don't know if they mean the pH, HCO3, CO2 levels?? Any help would be so grateful.
Thanks,
Tait, MSN, RN
2,142 Posts
Hi, I am 6 weeks away from finishing block I and I'm not understanding fluid and electrolytes. My instructor said this would be our hardest test. Well, she is right.I was told to make a diagram to learn what goes where, but I'm so lost. Can anyone help a rookie out??Tami
As far as the diagram goes I am pretty sure for fluids she wants something like the following:
Acid/base metabolic/respiratory imbalances are always a learning effort for me, and I learn more and more everytime I have an ABG drawn on a patient, so I don't have much advice in that area.
justme1972
2,441 Posts
To me, the information wasn't difficult to understand, it was just that there was a lot to learn.
Here is where you need to start...start with the following electrolytes.
Sodium
Potassium
Calcium
Phosphate
Chloride
Magnesium.
The FIRST thing that you need to do is write each one down with the normal range of lab values and put them to memory...this will be the core of your entire exam.
Next...you have to look up in your text if what happens to the body when they are high or low and list them in order of PRIORITY according to ABC's.
For example:
Potassium:
Too high = hyperkalcemia
Too low = hypokalcemia
You will easily find that there is an entire laundry list of signs and symptoms when each of the electrolytes are either high or low...but for example, when potassium is high OR low, it can cause cardiac arrythmias which can equal death....Potassium is what they use IV during lethal injections (hyperkalcemia), but if it bottoms out, you are just as dead.
Just keep going from there.
THEN do your ABG values using ROME..there are TONS of threads on this issue here.
Oh...you also need to know osmolality of fluids very well..this is how fluid is shifted within the body.
Thank you so much for taking the time to write all this down for me. This was my first time on and you have been wonderful. I will write each one out along with their s/sx and see where I'm at.
We do not learn too much in bock I about ABG's unfortunately. Thanks once again HOPEFULL2009!
BradleyRN
520 Posts
Here is a simple tutorial for interpreting ABG's (post #9). here
Osmolarity (thickness of the blood) goes up as the number of solutes (solids) in the blood (plasma) goes up. The thicker the blood, the higher the osmolality.
But realize this number will go up if the volume of the blood goes down as well.
If you have a beaker full of salt and water, and you take out some of the water, the salt stays behind, and the osmolality has increased.
So, in a case of dehydration, you have lost water thus increasing the amount of sodium and osmolality, resulting in hypernatremia.
In a case of excess secretion of ADH, the body holds on to fluids, diluting the sodium, decreasing osmolality (thinning the blood), and results in hyponatremia.
Potassium: Too high = hyperkalcemiaToo low = hypokalcemia
Hopefull meant:
Too high = hyperkalemia
Too low = hypokalemia
Daytonite, BSN, RN
1 Article; 14,604 Posts
in the nursing student assistance forum of allnurses you will find weblinks on fluids and electrolytes and abgs to help you out. they include tutorials, instructors class notes, and other specific helpful sites that pertain to the 6 important electrolytes, acidosis/alkalosis and analyzing abgs. they are posted here:
Thank you for your help. Its starting to make a little sense. I printed this out so I can refer back to it. Hopefully it will start to get easier. I did go by the book today on fluid & electrolytes made easy.
This is very helpful. Thank you so much.
Thank you for all the great links.
Do not know how to reply to PM. I'm new.
Just picked you because I needed some encouraging words. That is all!