FCCJ SPRING 2010 - page 65

I know it is a little early, but anyone plan on applying for FCCJ's spring 2010 program?? If I can get my Nat points up and if I do well in Micro this summer , I will be ready to... Read More

  1. by   RNMee
    I think we can all failry say that regaurdless of how good the program is , if it were us that wasn't admitted bc someone else was for such a program (pretend it's something different all together) I think it would be fair to say we would feel a little jipped. Sometimes it is hard to see it from all points of view. If it truly does good, I'm all for it. It's people that sbuse the systerm that irritate me. And all different types do that.
  2. by   K nurse-one-day
    Quote from FutureRNMom
    Oh well can't change it and I have better things to do like preparing for my tests and taking care of my family, and the pharmacy program is competitve at FAMU and they have a something similar to fscj diversity program except reversed females and minority( other than black) males! I got in the program so I am happy end of story!
    Well, you go do that then
  3. by   FutureRNMom
    Quote from tmooney
    I think we can all failry say that regaurdless of how good the program is , if it were us that wasn't admitted bc someone else was for such a program (pretend it's something different all together) I think it would be fair to say we would feel a little jipped. Sometimes it is hard to see it from all points of view. If it truly does good, I'm all for it. It's people that sbuse the systerm that irritate me. And all different types do that.
    I agree with you 100%! One thing I hate is people who abuse the system! I worked hard ever since I was 14 years old, I refuse to abuse the system! Unfortunately my whole dept got laid off and its hard to get a job right now so I am pretty much living off of my financial aid, but I know many who lie to get free stuff not fair and they should be prosecuted!
  4. by   FutureRNMom
    Quote from FLgirl06
    Well, you go do that then
    LOL its the holiday, don't get upset over things you have no control over! Life is too short to be angry! Smile
  5. by   FutureRNMom
    Quote from FLgirl06
    My point was that anyone getting special treatment for anything, school, scholarships, whatever, because of their race or gender, whether they are black, white, purple, or have 3 heads, is wrong....just my opinion
    I never disagreed with you, I was just looking at it in a different view that's all! Hopefully you get in when and wherever you apply!
  6. by   K nurse-one-day
    Quote from FutureRNMom
    I never disagreed with you, I was just looking at it in a different view that's all! Hopefully you get in when and wherever you apply!
    I know you didnt disagree, but you kept saying that people in the diversity program had high points too, and some got in the regular way...and the point I was trying to stress was that if a white female had objectively high points, there are no programs to help her out, and that it is a limited access program for a reason, and there is a cutoff for a reason...anyone below the cutoff is.....well, cutoff! And that there should be no other way beside the regular way. That was the ENTIRE point I wqas trying to make throughout all this.
    Anyway, you right, there is nothing i can do about it, I'm writing a letter but I doubt it will do any good, if it's meant to be for me to get in then I will. I have more important things to use my time thinking about that this...like getting ready for Christmas for one
  7. by   RNMee
    Merry Christmas guys! Don't get too angry, but always have an opinion. I think we are all intelligent, hard working , and caring individuals . Or we wouldn't be here. So just remember that ! Remember how lucky we are to have the opportunity all all.
  8. by   RNMee
    Quote from FutureRNMom
    I agree with you 100%! One thing I hate is people who abuse the system! I worked hard ever since I was 14 years old, I refuse to abuse the system! Unfortunately my whole dept got laid off and its hard to get a job right now so I am pretty much living off of my financial aid, but I know many who lie to get free stuff not fair and they should be prosecuted!



    I am with you ! You are a hard worker and a mom!
  9. by   FutureRNMom
    Quote from FLgirl06
    I know you didnt disagree, but you kept saying that people in the diversity program had high points too, and some got in the regular way...and the point I was trying to stress was that if a white female had objectively high points, there are no programs to help her out, and that it is a limited access program for a reason, and there is a cutoff for a reason...anyone below the cutoff is.....well, cutoff! And that there should be no other way beside the regular way. That was the ENTIRE point I wqas trying to make throughout all this.
    Anyway, you right, there is nothing i can do about it, I'm writing a letter but I doubt it will do any good, if it's meant to be for me to get in then I will. I have more important things to use my time thinking about that this...like getting ready for Christmas for one
    I agree with all that you said, and like I said I was looking at the positive things this program could do! Anyways Merry Christmas and Happy New Year's!!!!
  10. by   FLmomof5
    I have a few observations to share:

    We have 7 guys in our class of 24.
    We have 6 minorities
    We have 1 non-native. (English not first language)

    Not one of them had the advantage of the diversity program. In our original group we lost 2 white females and 1 white male.

    Someone mentioned that proof that nursing is a majority white because of the new england population is silly. New England is predominantly white anyway. Why don't you examine the population of Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and Georgia? Those states have a majority black population. I am sure that their population is equally represented in their nursing numbers.

    I have never believed that "affirmative action" was the right thing to do. I remember when I was young that my mother would share that "if only you were a black female with a spanish surname..." That was in the 70s when that combination would get you almost anything!

    I was born a simply white female. My father never discouraged me from my dream of attending the USAFA when I was 12....even though in 1970 they didn't accept females. The point is to allow and encourage the dream and they can make it without affirmative action.

    ALL that being said, I have shared with both minority females and some males that I know that the program exists. Many miss the cutoff. That doesn't mean they won't be good nurses, it means they were given a chance to prove themselves. They will have to pass the same classes and the same NCLEX.

    Understand this......
    I applied to the USAFA in 1979. In that day, and to this day, only 25% of the accepted class was female. I had the grades. I had the nomination (Presidential). I had the activities (Varsity Cheerleader, Varsity Gymnastics, State Champion Marine Physical Fitness team). There were males in my school who were accepted that didn't have all I had. They were accepted. I was not. If I were male, it would have been different, but unfortunately for me, there was a large group of intelligent, talented females that applied in 1979.

    I was disappointed. I took a different route (USAF 4 yr scholarship).

    There is always a way to acheive your dream if you want it bad enough.
  11. by   FutureRNMom
    LOL thats life Merry Christmas and Happy New Years!
  12. by   FutureRNMom
    Good post Flmomof5!!!!
  13. by   ljonm
    If people in the diversity program got in the nursing program the regular way with enough points, why are they still in the diversity program?

    Are there extra perks to the diversity program other than getting in with lower points than the cutoff?

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