Freedom to Associate Also Means Freedom Not to Associate - The average man on the street, as well as constitutional scholars, understands that any genuine personal right should include the freedom to refrain from exercising that right.
Right to Work Bolsters Job Creation, Personal Income Growth - In addition to freeing millions of Americans from the yoke of forced union dues, a national Right to Work law would at the same time help to improve our nation's economy.
Right to Work's Benefits Reach Citizens at All Income Levels - In addition to protecting the freedom of association and promoting economic development, Right to Work laws are an anti-poverty program with a proven record of success.
Passage of a National Right to Work Law Would Eliminate All Forced-Dues Politicking by Private-Sector Union Bosses - Not passing a national Right to Work law means not only that American workers will be denied a brighter economic future. It also means that millions of private-sector workers will continue to be forced to contribute to political candidates they do not wish to support.
A National Right to Work Law Would Reduce Union Corruption - The incestuous relationship between forced union dues and corruption was captured perfectly by the late U.S. Sen. John McClellan (D-Ark.): "Compulsory unionism and corruption go hand in hand." McClellan was referring to the corruption inherent within labor organizations that depend on the forced tribute of workers.
"Even if you are anti-union (an idea so foreign to me I won't even try to debate you) you should be glad the union is forcing the wages up higher for you."
There are no nurses unionized in Texas other than Cypress Fairbanks(undergoing decertification now)so how do you figure that unions are helping my pay scale?
How do you figure not having unions helps nurses intimidated by their employers in TX , to fight poor staffing etc. which adversely effects patient care ( yes I am well aware of the utopian employer you have , you have told us ad nauseum , but others from your state do not have the same priveledge ).
Please don't say nurses in TX have no reason to fear their employers when they see/ hear of Group1's blacklist or what is being done to the Winkler county nurses :-
"Even if you are anti-union (an idea so foreign to me I won't even try to debate you) you should be glad the union is forcing the wages up higher for you."
There are no nurses unionized in Texas other than Cypress Fairbanks(undergoing decertification now)so how do you figure that unions are helping my pay scale?
Get some unions going in Texas and maybe they will help your pay scale. Honestly, I've looked at your past posts and it seems obvious your an incredibly anti-union person, just trying to get a rise out of us pro-union people or spread anti-union sentiment to those unaware of unions and what they do. No disrespect, but in the future I will just avoid all your posts. There is no point in arguing with someone who is so contrary to me in such a major way. :argue: Hopefully you'll change your mind, but if you don't at least you are in a state with you same general ideology regarding unions (less stress for you). I'm sure glad I'm going to live in a state with my same general ideology regarding unions (less stress for me). :)
Maria895 while I probably have a similar view to you on many matters , I have to disagee with you upon one thing , ignoring PICUPNP's posts , while I have little to no liking of much of what he posts , I feel it is best to know what the opposing view ( which he zealously informs us of )is and to be able to adjust my response to it as necessary .
I think it was a chinese general who said it is better to know / understand your enemies in order to defeat them . NB. please try not to view people with different opinions as enemies .
Maria895 while I probably have a similar view to you on many matters , I have to disagee with you upon one thing , ignoring PICUPNP's posts , while I have little to no liking of much of what he posts , I feel it is best to know what the opposing view ( which he zealously informs us of )is and to be able to adjust my response to it as necessary .
I think it was a chinese general who said it is better to know / understand your enemies in order to defeat them . NB. please try not to view people with different opinions as enemies .
Your right :) I let my irritation get the better of me, and I'm not a big fan of being argumentative. But you make a good point - good quote too! :)
Specializes in PICU, NICU, L&D, Public Health, Hospice.
what is clear is that the working conditions for APNs is, by and large, different than for the avg ADN/BSN working at the bedside. what is clear is that the compensation package for APNs is, by and large, different for the avg ADN/BSN. No quarrel with that, but it is a bit disingenuous for an APN to argue against the rights of the nonAPN to seek a voice in their employment conditions.
Seriously, I have a good job, a good employer, and a reasonable compensation package...but it would be ridiculous for me to dismiss the concerns and complaints of my peers in different positions with different employers simply because that is not MY experience. That is sort of tantamount to me saying..."my patient has no pain, I know because I have no pain".
In browsing the "Collective Bargaining and Nursing Union Discussion" , I noticed numerous new threads started by you, all in the name of your own personal 'anti union.' stance.
While I respect your right to voice your opinion freely ,I'm surprised by the amount of time you spend creating these new threads.
Instead of spending your time (and spinning your wheels) being AGAINST something, why not browse other forums, such as "general student" and see if you can help answer some of the many questions that are often posted there? Since you are an advance practice nurse, you must have a wealth of knowledge on other topics besides unionization.
I'm sure most students on allnurses.com would appreciate your help.vv:twocents:
I'm doing nothing more than speaking out against what I feel is a problem in the field of nursing. Regardless of the fact that I'm a NP, I am still a RN. Why do you have such a problem with someone being on the other side of the fence or do you? I spend my time on this forum just like the pro union camp does in espousing their opinions about unions in nursing.
In browsing the "Collective Bargaining and Nursing Union Discussion" , I noticed numerous new threads started by you, all in the name of your own personal 'anti union.' stance.
While I respect your right to voice your opinion freely ,I'm surprised by the amount of time you spend creating these new threads.
Instead of spending your time (and spinning your wheels) being AGAINST something, why not browse other forums, such as "general student" and see if you can help answer some of the many questions that are often posted there? Since you are an advance practice nurse, you must have a wealth of knowledge on other topics besides unionization.
I'm sure most students on allnurses.com would appreciate your help.vv:twocents:
Peace
Diane, RN
Diane-RN in Michigan has expressed it perfectly. :) I agree 100% with her and hopefully this thread will end peacefully, but of course its your right to post what you wish.
Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.
Just a friendly reminder: Every member of Allnurses has the right to post whatever he/she wants, as long as it is within our Terms of Service. Accordingly, every member is free to disagree with another's opinion, to offer a rebuttal, even to put another member on "Ignore". We don't censor people simply because a majority of the membership doesn't like what they have to say.
'Nuff said. This thread will be allowed to continue. Carry on.....
Honestly, I've looked at your past posts and it seems obvious your an incredibly anti-union person, just trying to get a rise out of us pro-union people or spread anti-union sentiment to those unaware of unions and what they do. No disrespect, but in the future I will just avoid all your posts. There is no point in arguing with someone who is so contrary to me in such a major way. :argue: Hopefully you'll change your mind, but if you don't at least you are in a state with you same general ideology regarding unions (less stress for you). I'm sure glad I'm going to live in a state with my same general ideology regarding unions (less stress for me). :)
PICUPNP
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"Even if you are anti-union (an idea so foreign to me I won't even try to debate you) you should be glad the union is forcing the wages up higher for you."
There are no nurses unionized in Texas other than Cypress Fairbanks(undergoing decertification now)so how do you figure that unions are helping my pay scale?