Fired After 50, Part I: What It's Like To Be A Statistic

First in a series about a nurse (me) who finds herself suddenly unemployed at age 51 and learns she is part of an alarming trend of American workers who are losing their jobs at midlife and beyond. This is a story about the new "midlife crisis", the lessons learned during the transition process, and ultimately, starting all over again at a time of life when I'd once hoped I'd get to throttle back and cruise into retirement. Nurses Announcements Archive Article

Hello. My name is Marla and I'm an unemployed nurse.

There, I said it. Now's the time when everyone's supposed to shout "HI, MARLA!" and applaud. Oh, wait---that was AA, circa 1992. Oops. *blushes*

I've talked about this revolting development here on my blog before, but I had never actually felt embarrassed about it until two days ago, when I received my first unemployment benefits check. What a humbling experience that was! Even though I haven't worked since mid-June and needed the money desperately, it hurt my pride to walk into the bank and deposit a government check into my account. I swore that once I left welfare (now sixteen years ago) that I would never again darken the door of any government office until it was time to apply for Social Security. And until I lost my nursing-home job thanks to a deadly combination of a lousy economy, chronic low census, and degenerative joint problems, I had never needed to.

I've been in between jobs before, but there was always another job just around the corner......I wasn't "out of work", and I certainly didn't need to rely on public largesse to keep a roof over my family's heads during the brief interludes between the end of one job and the beginning of another. But the plain truth is---even if it's not really my fault---I AM unemployed, and the prospects for finding even a temporary position till I land my next 'real' job are few and far between.

Ironically, a temporary position was all I was looking for when I found this last job as a 3-11 charge nurse on a long-term care unit. I'd just come from a bruising experience working with an administrator whose passive-aggressive approach to work nearly separated me from my sanity; all I wanted was a job where I could hide out for awhile and nurse my wounds while still being able to eat and pay bills in the same month. In the process, I found redemption for previous career mistakes, right there in that old LTC........and even after almost two years, the old yearnings for money and power hadn't returned.

Well, fate is indeed a fickle creature, and thanks to the aforementioned trifecta of misfortune, I now find myself part of a growing---and alarming---trend in which many older Americans are being "Fired After Fifty", as AARP recently called it in a piece they did on the subject. No, we're not necessarily being hauled into the boss's office and told "don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya"; but whether it's described as getting fired, losing one's job, or being laid off/let go/shown the door/downsized/outsourced/cut back/restructured/fill in the politically correct blank, the result is the same: we are out of a job. And Lord help us in finding another one.........few companies want to hire in uncertain times, and fewer still are willing to take on, ahem, experienced workers who tend to cost more in terms of salary and benefits than their younger counterparts.

I have become something I never thought I'd be in a million years: just another statistic.

That said, I am oddly optimistic about my future, even though I'm what you might call damaged goods. I may have a case of advancing age, but I still have the education and knowledge that no one can ever take away from me. My body may be in a state of dilapidation that precludes any job requiring physical stamina, but I'm comfortable in my own skin, I can still do what I need to do to get through the day, and frankly, I think I've lifted as many 300-pounders and run as many halls as I should ever have to. (Nor is my overweight state solely to blame for it; I hear complaints all the time from fellow midlifers who are thin and fit, and yet have knee and hip problems and backaches that are as bad, if not worse than my own.) I'm also fairly intelligent, I learn things quickly, I get along with just about everyone, and I'm willing to try new things......what else could an employer possibly want, right?

We shall see, in any event. I've gotten some nibbles from the twenty or so applications and resumes I've sent out, and the interviews have now begun. Today's was interesting, especially in light of the fact that I am directionally dyslexic........and the job involves extensive in-state travel........and I got lost trying to find headquarters. Stay tuned!

Specializes in NICU.
Preemielove80, your post made me sick to my stomach. I am ashamed of my profession for exactly this kind of behavior. We treat our nurses shabbily to say the least. As long as money is involved there will be NO mercy! With little effort the nursing dept, along with HR, could have helped you get maximum benefits. I am sorry for your troubles and wish you well. I know that this is heart breaking for you. Shame on your hospital and your colleagues.:crying2::crying2:

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I'm adjusting to not working. I was very happy 2 days ago, when we had a snow storm with 5 inches of snow coming down pretty rapidly. I didn't have to try to drive 10 miles through the mess to get to work!

I was called by Social Security, and was told that my disability is probably going to be approved this time, as long as I do not try to work. They said that the reason I wasn't approved the first time I applied last year, was because I returned to work after 3 months. If you work while on SSD, you can't bring home more than $250/week.

I wish there was a way I could tutor or assist Neonatal nurses on line. It's something I could do from home, and set my own hours, asking for minimal pay. I loved my job so much. :bby::bby::bby:

I just find it ironic the the nursing profession, the profession dedicated to help, be compassionate and be non-judgemental is so merciless to their own kind. I was fired in June 2010 for "unprofessional conduct unrelated to patient care". I was told that I was not going along with there game plan. Unfortunately for me their game plan was not patient care, it was profit. I had expressed my opinion on more than one occasion about this but this only made me a target. I was entitled to unemployment benefits because the employer could not come up with the burden of proof regarding misconduct. I am 56 years old with 30 years of experience and cannot find a job. I am a good nurse. My best resume is the opinion of my patients but that carries no weight when applying for a job. I have put in for more than 26 jobs in less than one month and no offers. Benefits are exhausted and I now have no income. I feel like have been discarded and have very little hope.

What is your education background? Teri

I would investigate higher education for additional resources Teri

Specializes in NICU.
What is your education background? Teri

I wasn't sure if you were talking about me.

I have a BSN in Nursing. I certified in Neonatal Intensive Care nursing 20 years ago, and am current in my RNC. I worked in our NICU for over 30 years. I taught at our Core Curriculums, and have also spoken at one national Neonatal Nursing conference. Early on, I also travelled to a couple of out-lying cities in my state to teach their nurses how to identify, stabilize, and prepare for transport infants with a neonatal emergency, especially if a baby was born with defects that would require surgical intervention.

I miss my job. I don't have the physical stamina to do what I used to do, but I wish I could contribute in some way from home.

Hello, I am around your age and in the same position,with the exception that I am an LPN. I changed careers ( big mistake) and have been an LPN for a little over two years . I am appalled with the treatment of LPN's in my state. My last job I worked 16 hr. shifts with rarely a break. The facilities in this state average 30 patients per nurse. It reminds me of how slaves must have been treated. I have endured so many what I consider human rights violation, too numerous to mention. There are no nursing unions in my state and I do not know if the horrible working conditions are due to this or the nursing profession in general. I wanted to go on for my R.N ( I have a B.A ) but I am so turned off by nursing at this point I doubt that I will do it. I am now actively looking for a job outside the profession, in which workers are treated with some amount of respect and consideration. I hear that the nursing profession has a big drop out rate. The nurses that I am friends with all have stress related diseases or addictions. I would prefer to change careers again rather then ruin my physical and emotional health. Thank you for allowing me to vent.

Specializes in Geriatrics.

Thank You for this inspiring (and educational) Blog, I look forward to reading more of your adventures. Sad to say but I have to agree with Midge13. It is appalling the way a Care based field treats it's staff. But then, it comes as no surprize to me. I am 52, I am an LPN, this is my 2nd career also. I find myself unemployed, I have sent out over 50 applications in the last month. Most of the jobs online or in the papers are in another state (I do not live in a compact state so...). I have had 3 call backs, go for interviews and are offered night shifts or part-time, or never hear back from them, I get tons of email from at-home scam positions, I get calls from Agency who also want me for .... night shift! Amazingly I never check night shift as a request for hours I want to work, (did that for over a year and had nothing but trouble trying to sleep during the day) what would make them think I would be happy with the offer. When I fill out and application I also notice the spaces asking for date of High School graduation, I have even had a few that outright asked for my Birthdate (of course both always followed by the Age Discrimination Disclaimer). I am unsure if the economy is the problem or what is happening. What I do know is - 23 yrs in the factories I never had the problems I find myself facing now. I sometimes wonder if following my dream of becoming a nurse was a mistake.

Specializes in NICU.

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"i was given a disability packet and told to apply through the hospital's company. so i did. what i didn't understand was that as soon as disability was approved, i would be terminated by the hospital. i had tried to log in to my hospital email one day and was told that my account was restricted. that's how i found out i'd been fired. i was not given any formal written written notification of my termination until after i had called hr twice. then, i received a letter from the vice president of hr stating that we discussed all this in my meeting with her, and i knew i was to be terminated on december 3. this was a verbal discussion only."

currently i bring home 50% less than what i made as a working rn in nicu. keeping my health insurance through cobra, including cancer, critical care, vision, dental, and accident insurance, is costing me $600/month, which is 35% of my monthly income. on april 1st i will be considered to be on 'long term disability'. my income will decrease by another 20%. :scrying::crying2:

ok, human resources. i have some theoretical questions.

i met with the vp of human resources on nov. 10, where i was given the disability packet. i completed all paperwork and submitted the packet to our hospital's disability company on nov. 24. i was approved on nov. 29.

* how did you know the date i would be approved for disability on nov. 10?

* how could you have "told me" i would be terminated on dec. 3, when i had received the application for disability on nov. 10, and did not know if or when i would be approved?

something just doesn't feel right.

First of all fifty is far from old. You are still a young woman who is only a few years of having been in the prime of your life. How sad you should feel this way or in any way be descriminated against. My hat goes out to you for your pride. My Father God Bless him is 80 years old and still works full time and is 100% on the ball I somedays think he has more energy that I do. He's amazing. I don't need to get on a roll about this because obviously I'm passionate about it I think as long a you can do your job and hold your own how dare anyone to make you feel different.

Specializes in ICU,ER,med-Surg,Geri,Correctional.

okay: Here's how I see a lot of what is going on with big corp. BTW I work in a right to work state which means no Unions, and we can be fired with or without reasons. No they do not have to tell you why you have been "let go" I am 60 with 35 yrs as a nurse). Regardless of how much we take care of ourselves. Nursing is a hard physical job which carries consequences. At around 50 I could tell the old back was getting weaker and starting to cause aches and pains, from the years of lifting, bending,scooting and jumping over beds and other obstacles in the room along with a few of the slip/ near falls form the variety of liquids that end up on the floor, you know spills and the results of" who forgot to close the clasp on the foley bag" type of things. (Backs will cause loss of work days). Then there is the knees from the years of kneeling to check B/P, assessments, starting IV and other situations (knee pain will slow the worker down). Then this is the age that the chronic diseases will start to manifest( again sick days ) Now the insurance that you have been paying for without using it much, is now staring to pay you back, which you are now costing, taking instead of giving. This is the age that your parents are aging and very likely will die, this will cause again days off, lost of work days. So I think that the bean counters who run the corp. hospital who really don't give a darn about you, as long as they can convince you that you don't deserve a raise but he certainly deserves a sizeable bonus, sorry got carried away. Other words they don't consider the wisdom, dedication and sacrifice, of the vintage worker, now they look at them as a liability instead of an asset

Specializes in OB, HH, ADMIN, IC, ED, QI.

"......................as soon as disability was approved, I would be terminated by the hospital. " from post #67

Read that, "as soon as you apply for disability"! The honchos who develop HR guidelines and advise corporate idiots (who had better do their bidding or it's off with their heads AND bonuses), don't really care what happens to employees, as long as they're spared the long arm of unemployment.

The time has come I believe, for nurses to develop mid-sized employment agencies from which all nurses get jobs!!! Then they can call the shots, as no nurses, no nursing care at the facilities needing same. Autonomy is necessary for real power.

Right now control is in the hands of employers, which has been the case too long! Start small and build bigger, but stay in your own communities or you'll find credibility flying out the door in the eyes of both nurses and employers. Pay your own employees from the wages YOU SET, not what non nursing jerks think the traffic will bear!

Keep nurses well educated with programs that are appropriate foir their work, and in situations where ergogenics, and reward for good performance is appreciated. Spills need to be cleaned pronto, or it's a dangerous workplace, and your nurses won't go there. PPE in adequate quantities and appropriateness ALSO is a factor in that determination. Have frequent inspections of facilities for suitability, and threaten withdrawal of personnel if conditions aren't improved in a specific (realistic, as early as possible) time. Don't suffer contradictions to labor laws of the country, state and community. Only hire nurses with team spiirit who will support each other (that can be determined by hypothetical questioning during hiring interviews) and not stand in judgment or hold grudges.

By the way, "right to work" areas aren't "no unions allowed" places. However, the nurse run agencies I've outlined above, will act for nurses without having other types of workers' interests as priorities.......

Listen up educational institutions, colleges and universities: start preparing nurses to take part in new administrative roles, rather than lackeys of big business!!! When we're one for all and all for one, there won't be "eating young" stories and sniping/bullying other professionals will just not be appropriate when we rule our working environments. "There'll be no one left to fight us" as the song goes, and we WILL BE UNITED!

Specializes in NICU.

"my disability pay is based on the job and hours i had for 10 weeks. i asked the hospital if they could base it on the pay and hours i had for over 30 years, and they said no."

"on april 1st i will be considered to be on 'long term disability'. my income will decrease by another 20%."

i got off the phone today with my hospital's disability company. worried b/c i haven't had any income since feb.11. i was told that they were reviewing my medical records to see if i qualified for long term disability. at our hospital, the first week you are disabled is covered by the employee. my disability company said that my hospital used the dates of nov.8-12 as my first week of disability. my last day to work was on nov. 7, 2330-0730 shift.

funny, because the vp of human resources did not meet with me until nov.10. so apparently the hospital had made up their minds and submitted initial paperwork before meeting with me. :eek:

one piece of good news: i asked my disability representative today what my pay will be based on, and she said that my hourly rate and hours will be based on the job i had held in nicu for 30 years, :) and not what i was paid for the 10 weeks while i was at the "trial" job.i am applying for sad, and was told by the government that they will also consider my last day to work to be in may 2010; the telephone triage rn job i worked at for 10 weeks was my attempt to see if i could work if i had a sedentary position. i couldn't.

at this sedentary job, i took a cut in pay of over $3.00/hr., and a decrease in hours from 64 hrs.every 2 weeks, to 40 hrs. every 2 weeks in the sedentary job.

so the difference in my disability pay will be significant, and it will be retroactive to may 2010. so much for the vp of human resources telling me that they couldn't pay me what i made in the department i had worked in for 30 years, due to "government labor laws."

thank you, jesus. i knew that you were watching over me---i just did not feel your presence thru my grief.