I go to a small school and I recently failed a clinical class. I currently have two more semesters (6 more classes) left to take. I am also worried i will fail my preceptorship in the last semester because of school doesn't adequately prepare students and i have no additional health care experience. Does anyone know of a student who has failed on course but completed the nursing program? Are there any preceptors out there that can give me advice? Have any instructors ever failed a student in clinical, if so on what grounds?
I am hoping to gain a sense of hope by writing to all of you. Thank You!
Something must have been occurring throughout the rotation because you were assigned remediation during your semester. Was there any task/skill/assessment in clinicals in which you felt weak on? Did you make any errors or potential errors that could of caused harm to a patient?
More information won't help anyone to understand. I just want my question answered.
There seems to be an awfully long list of finger-pointing going on here and not taking any blame for yourself.
If you truly feel that you were treated so unjustly, why would you try to continue going to this school? If all of the things you listed truly happened to me in the way you stated, I would have been gone long ago.
Doesn't make much sense to me.
My suggestion is to take a look at what YOU may be doing wrong and focus less on how "others are out to get you" because chances are, this is not the case. Take some responsibility for what's happening and work on improving it. There may be some factors that are outside of your control, and this is understandable, but keep in mind that you have to take some responsibility, too.
I appreciate your response however I did not ask anyone to judge the situation here. You are making assumptions. I would appreciate constructive responses that answer my questions not comment on the background information. I don't know anything about your situation but if you would have been long gone it seems that you could afford take a loss of nursing credits and pay additional tuition. This is not an option for me.
My instructor routinely dismissed class three hours early. I asked to stay the full time. She no longer has a job at my school. I did not make any errors that could have caused harm to a patient. In fact I asked for a record of clinical issues and what I have done wrong but the faculty failed to provide documents or explanation to me.
You stated you were picked on in prior semesters too. What do you think were the reasons for that?
Personally, I wouldn't file charges against a school and then ask to go back there and finish.
I appreciate your response however I did not ask anyone to judge the situation here. You are making assumptions. I would appreciate constructive responses that answer my questions not comment on the background information. I don't know anything about your situation but if you would have been long gone it seems that you could afford take a loss of nursing credits and pay additional tuition. This is not an option for me.
Mirandaaa is absolutely giving you constructive criticism. Her words were not harsh, but truthful. Would you rather we stroke your ego or give you legitimate advice? If your school truly is doing wrong by you, you should not be attending that school. If instructors really are shorting you hours upon hours of classroom time, you are not at a place that will make you become a solid nurse. Instead of thinking "how can I get my degree?" think "how can I become the best nurse possible?"
Did you take your instructor's criticism well and ask how you could improve? Or did you argue every point your instructor tried to make? You have experienced instructors and RNs and fellow students above who are giving you real advice. Take it.
I appreciate your response however I did not ask anyone to judge the situation here.
Respectfully, the way you come across raises a lot of red flags. Usually when students don't take personal responsibility for their situation things don't go well. Is the situation at clinical similar to what you have experienced here so far? If so, please do some self reflection and see if there's anything YOU can do to fix this. I'm trying to give you some honest advice, take it or leave it.
To be honest, by filing discrimination charges, you should just consider yourself done at this school. Hopefully you had real evidence of discrimination, not what you put in here. You wrote you felt there was a bias and you had some extra assignments. Not really proof of any bias. I'm sure your clinical instructor had good reason for it. Maybe you weren't grasping clinical. Maybe this was her trying to help you pass.
Frankly I'm tired of students coming in here and not taking responsibility for their failures. It's always someone else's fault. I would be more apt to give quality advice to someone who says I screwed up this semester, I was just having a hard time understanding how to do certain skills, and I'm not sure what to do.
This it's not my fault attitude won't get you far in the real works, especially nursing where you will carry great responsibility on your shoulders. Just know that you pretty much screwed yourself at this school and I would make other plans.
I will not admit fault to something that is not my fault. I realize that petty people cannot remain objective such is the characters of the majority of instructors at my school which is why I am a bit concerned. However either way they were screwing with me at least by filing charges I am letting them know I am not one to be screwed with. I will fight for myself. I am not going to be failed again by a school instructor when I out perform most of the students in class and in clinical (not hard. this is not good school). That is not my concern. Notice how I asked for advice to improve since my school doesn't adequately prepare us. Also notice how I am concerned about working with my preceptor outside of my school not somebody within the school.
Mirandaaa is absolutely giving you constructive criticism. Her words were not harsh, but truthful. Would you rather we stroke your ego or give you legitimate advice? If your school truly is doing wrong by you, you should not be attending that school. If instructors really are shorting you hours upon hours of classroom time, you are not at a place that will make you become a solid nurse. Instead of thinking "how can I get my degree?" think "how can I become the best nurse possible?"
Did you take your instructor's criticism well and ask how you could improve? Or did you argue every point your instructor tried to make? You have experienced instructors and RNs and fellow students above who are giving you real advice. Take it.
if you fully read my post at all you would have noticed I clearly indicated that I am not going to a school that prepares me to be solid nurse. All that advice is useless to me. My school won't fail me again or they are screwed. However preceptor outside the school might fail me bc we aren't prepared. You are making assumptions which is useless to me. If you cannot be positive and answer the questions at hand you shouldn't respond. idk what world you live in where you think a student has the cash flow to just pick up and attend another school and lose credits and repeat courses.
Does anyone know of a student who has failed on course but completed the nursing program?
Of course. People fail all of the time. They usually retake the class, do better, and move on in the program. Specifically at my school, you could fail once in the program. A second fail and you're out.
Are there any preceptors out there that can give me advice?
Sorry not a preceptor. But as someone who has completed a preceptorship, I learned to do as the preceptor does. Don't go trying to teach a very experienced ICU nurse things. Just use the time to learn and get comfortable in role as a nurse (without having to share an instructor with 7 other students).
Have any instructors ever failed a student in clinical, if so on what grounds?
Yes. We knew what the major no no's were: giving drugs or doing procedures without reporting to instructor or violating HIPAA could get you booted out of clinical and fail the class. Also, showing a trend of being unsafe or being VERY unsafe once could cause you to fail. You might get unsatisfactories (that can lead to failing) if you fail to learn from prior experiences, not listening to your instructor, or not finishing your paperwork.
You became extremely defensive and provided little information. You only gave us one piece to this story. You must be humble in this profession and realize YOU might be a part of the problem. Which is something YOU can work on. You said you made no mistakes and outperformed your entire class in both lecture and clinical and yet you're the one who is currently out of the program. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just asking you look within and evaluate yourself. I just graduated nursing school and I can tell you I have made a mistake or two in my nursing school career (charted under the wrong patient!) how stupid of me haha but I caught it when reviewing my charting and corrected the mistake. We can't give you advice on how to feel prepared because you're telling us you're killing it in clinicals and lecture. You've done nothing wrong so you should be golden.
if you fully read my post at all you would have noticed I clearly indicated that I am not going to a school that prepares me to be solid nurse. All that advice is useless to me. My school won't fail me again or they are screwed. However preceptor outside the school might fail me bc we aren't prepared. You are making assumptions which is useless to me. If you cannot be positive and answer the questions at hand you shouldn't respond. idk what world you live in where you think a student has the cash flow to just pick up and attend another school and lose credits and repeat courses.
I think you really need to step back and look at the big picture. As others mentioned, there is a clear indication through remedial work you were given that you may not have been as good in your skills as you thought. It doesn't mean your a bad student, but does show there may have been some deficiencies you couldn't see yourself. If you are not an adequate student, they will fail you again. They will not be screwed if they fail you again because you would need HARD, CONCRETE proof it was under the grounds of discrimination, short of someone on video or in writing saying it. They will most likely have the paperwork to back themselves up, since you already filed charges (are you suing?) once already.
You also need to be prepared if your case does not go the way you are hoping. It happens all the time. Do you have concrete proof of discrimination? Do you want to go back into the program after that should your case be dismissed?
If you don't feel adequately prepared you need to find a program that fits your needs. You can't sit for the NCLEX if you fail out of school, even all the way to your preceptorship. Short of extra clinical time and independent study, I don't know how you would bridge the gap, so to speak, yourself.
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More information won't help anyone to understand. I just want my question answered.