Ethel Bauer School of Nursing Phoenix

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Hello,

I am 27 years old and thinking of switching careers to nursing. There is a new nursing school in Phoenix that opened last year. The cost of the whole program is about 26k but there is no waiting list. The student graduates with an AA. Has anyone heard of this school? Can someonne tell me something about this school and their program? I was told that University of Phoenix and Grand Canyon University does credit their courses if decided to go for BSN.

I would stay away from those nontraditional schools if I were you. Just my $.02. I have a co-worker who is an instructor at Apollo and she was going to quit, I guess because the hospitals that are left after MCC's schools and ASU and even NAU take their clinicals are the ones the alternative programs go to. Needless to say, they're not the best hospitals. My friend was saying that this particular hospital even staffed by including the students as staff and then using them as CNA's.

GilbertDaddy- I'm assuming you live in Gilbert, but I'd like to tell you about a program at Glendale CC that might work for you. I'm not sure of the schedule but one of my clinical instructors was teaching it. It's a hybrid program where you do a lot of your coursework at home, but then go to the school for some other things. The instructor that was teaching it is awesome!! She's one of the few I'd recommend there, and from what she was saying she goes through the whole program with her students, from Blk 1-4. I don't know much else about it, but it would be worth checking out. Definitely stay away from Rio. From what I've heard out of 10 students that started only 1-2 passed and the program was faltering big time. I wouldn't want to be in the middle of nursing school and have the school end up closing...they're just too unstable right now.

If you decide to go the BSN route, a lot of those schools don't have much wait. It's hard to get in, you need a great GPA etc, but if you can pull that off you won't have to wait as long as the CC's.

Just remember, the CC's have a long wait for a reason. They're good schools, you get a good solid education, and they've proven they turn out well prepared nurses. You don't want to be graduating and starting a new career and realizing you owe $40K+ to a school that didn't prepare you for the 'real world'.

Keli Fall '07 GCC graduate nurse

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I would stay away from those nontraditional schools if I were you. Just my $.02. I have a co-worker who is an instructor at Apollo and she was going to quit, I guess because the hospitals that are left after MCC's schools and ASU and even NAU take their clinicals are the ones the alternative programs go to. Needless to say, they're not the best hospitals. My friend was saying that this particular hospital even staffed by including the students as staff and then using them as CNA's.

GilbertDaddy- I'm assuming you live in Gilbert, but I'd like to tell you about a program at Glendale CC that might work for you. I'm not sure of the schedule but one of my clinical instructors was teaching it. It's a hybrid program where you do a lot of your coursework at home, but then go to the school for some other things. The instructor that was teaching it is awesome!! She's one of the few I'd recommend there, and from what she was saying she goes through the whole program with her students, from Blk 1-4. I don't know much else about it, but it would be worth checking out. Definitely stay away from Rio. From what I've heard out of 10 students that started only 1-2 passed and the program was faltering big time. I wouldn't want to be in the middle of nursing school and have the school end up closing...they're just too unstable right now.

If you decide to go the BSN route, a lot of those schools don't have much wait. It's hard to get in, you need a great GPA etc, but if you can pull that off you won't have to wait as long as the CC's.

Just remember, the CC's have a long wait for a reason. They're good schools, you get a good solid education, and they've proven they turn out well prepared nurses. You don't want to be graduating and starting a new career and realizing you owe $40K+ to a school that didn't prepare you for the 'real world'.

Keli Fall '07 GCC graduate nurse

Thanks!

Please, if you could find out more, PM me or something - I'd love to look at a few hybrid programs.

With BSN schools, can I still obtain my RN after 2 years or do I have to complete the entire degree before I can take the NCLEX-RN? I plan on going past the BSN so it's inevitable, but since I'm in IT now, I'd like to eventually get the chance to move into nursing as a career after getting my RN :)

I agree on the 40k a year thing. If I was getting paid like a CRNA, I could swallow that much debt, but making 25 or so an hour.. It would take forever.

I'm doing my pre-reqs at Rio, but I don't think that's a problem, after that I'll be looking to transfer to a school for my RN/BSN. Thanks :);)

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Specializes in OR, Telemetry, PCCU, Med/Surg.

You have to finish the entire BSN degree before you can take the NCLEX-RN. However, keep in mind that the first two years of a four year program consist only of pre-requisites. The actual nursing program is four semesters - ASU even offers an accelerated one of 16 months. However, let's not underestimate those pre-req's, they're all the same ones as for the MCC program plus the entire Awareness stuff you need to do at ASU, nutrition, healthcare classes, etc. In order to get into the BSN program, you'll also probably need a GPA of well above 3.0 considering it is competitive...

I'd honestly love to do it that way, but it just seems so much farther away. Especially considering the fact that you can transfer all your nursing credits from MCC to ASU and finish the BSN in about one year! :) There's also no wait for that program and your employer will probably pay for it!

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I am looking into the Ethel Bauer School of Nursing. Can anyone give me information on this school? Is this a reliable school and what is the work load like with each semester? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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:typing i graduated from ethel bauer last feb, before the great rate increase. my class was the second class to graduate. there were a lot of kinks, but there is a new administration and people dedicated to making it a great learning experience. my brother's roomate also graduated from ebsn a few months ago and was very happy with the program. our clinical experience was better than any other school in the valley, we were able to go to more that 10 different clinical sites. it gave us a very wonderful idea of what other hospitals and institutions in the valley of the sun are doing. i work at a hospital and chose not to go to my hospitals program because they only use the 2 hospitals that they own. i think for those folks they are at a real disadvantage. i say go for it!

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Specializes in CNA, MA, RN STUDENT.

so, what are the pre reqs to get into the program ??

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Specializes in retail NP.

with any nursing program, you get back what you put in...

i, too, graduated from this obviously controversial school in the same class as above poster bostondreamn (hi gina!).

almost all of us are very successful, passed the boards our first time, and don't regret having been a student there.

I work at mayo and i feel like i got what i needed out of the program. people can say what they want, but having come from that program, i know that it was worth the money.

say what you will.

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I understand that some people had good experiences there. However, the class that finished this month, Feb 2008, just had the director resign before she signed off on them to take the state boards. So now all those people are sitting around, 3 weeks later, trying to find someone at the school qualified to sign the piece of paper authorizing them to take the state board. Just another one of the many examples of how the school is messed up. Who's going to be the 3rd director in 12 months? We shall wait and see...

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Specializes in Cardiac.
I understand that some people had good experiences there. However, the class that finished this month, Feb 2008, just had the director resign before she signed off on them to take the state boards. So now all those people are sitting around, 3 weeks later, trying to find someone at the school qualified to sign the piece of paper authorizing them to take the state board. Just another one of the many examples of how the school is messed up. Who's going to be the 3rd director in 12 months? We shall wait and see...

Wow! What a mess!

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There are several things no one takes into account when talking about EBSN. (1) is that the new director quit for health reasons - let's not dis someone for having THAT happen! If you think things like that don't happen at community colleges, think again. You are just buried in a huge group of people so you don't see all the little blips along the radar - they are definitely there. (2) the teachers at EBSN are FABULOUS. They CARE about whether the students pass - their program, their reputations all depend on the program being a success (3) when you have a small school (say 30 people), and one fails, you have a "high" failure rate. You can lose a whole lot of failing people in a group as large as the community colleges. The bottom line is that almost everyone got the tools/education they needed to pass NCLEX - and one or two didn't. They may have their own reasons for not being able to pass it the first time - and it may not be the fault of the instructors. (4) these threads are extremely powerful, whether readers understand it or not. Rumors get started and the reputation of the college is harmed by negative comments with no basis in fact. (5) A lot of people are in a position in their lives where waiting 2+ years to get into college just isn't worth the wait - and with hospital tuition reimbursement and loans the cost isn't as much a consideration for some as for others. (6) these private programs offer an alternative that works really well for some people. In the end, we will all have Associates degrees and be eligible to sit for the NCLEX. Just my two cents/er, two bucks' worth.

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Specializes in Pediatrics, L&D.

I am aware that the director left for health reasons. However... teachers? All the best teachers have left... In reviewing what teachers are still there, there is only one that I would trust what she says at all. She is wonderful, but it is only her.

And no, no one was given the tools they needed to succeed, not by the school at least! We spent hundreds on lab time we never received... I am not griping because I didn't pass NCLEX, I passed it on my first try after only 75 questions. But not because of EBSN. Because of my own individual effort to learn from the nurses I worked with on my own time with my own resources.

EBSN? It was a really expensive, time consuming way for me to buy the right to sit for NCLEX.

One or two didn't get the tools they needed? What a laugh.

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Specializes in Cardiac.
... the teachers at EBSN are FABULOUS. They CARE about whether the students pass - their program, their reputations all depend on the program being a success ...

If this were actually true, then the NCLEX pass rate would be better.

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