Enrolled Nurse vs. Endorsed Enrolled Nurse

shelle001 · Mar 20, 2006

Others can correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe that being an Endorsed Enrolled Nurse simply means that you've also been taught the medication module/course. A "standard" enrolled nurse isn't taught that, but can do it as a later update.

bethem · Mar 20, 2006

An endorsed EN also gets a whopping $15 a week extra!

Grace Oz · Mar 26, 2006

I think you'll find it means the EN is simply medication accreditated. Whether the EN achieves this as part of their training or post training depends on when the nurse trained, where, etc etc.

Before this course was introduced, EN's administered certain medications under the direction and supervision of the RN. There was never any course or training undertaken.

While the EN still works under the direction and supervision of an RN, having this, (medication), qualification makes it 'legal' to do what EN's have been doing for over 40 years or more!

Having it does make the EN more attractive to prospective employers and it's following the American and English model for second tier nurses.

melanie2968 · Mar 30, 2006

Anyone registered with the Nurses and Midwives board in NSW as an enrolled nurse prior to 1990 is able to complete the medication component at TAFE. If you completed enrolled nursing prior to 1990 you will need to complete a conversion course then the medication component. You will then be elegible to register as an Endorsed Enrolled Nurse.

Anyone commencing studies with TAFE now will complete the Endorsed Enrolled Nurse (IV) program. There are no more Enrolled Nursing programs now that the Endorsed program has commenced.

This may be in NSW only.

pink_margarita · Mar 31, 2006

hi melanie! i suppose TAFE NSW has not updated their website yet as Cert IV is still called Enrolled Nursing. Thanks for clearing it, though. Now im more interested than ever.

Cheers!

tinarndiv2 · Apr 28, 2006

Hi bethem do you get $15 dollars extra? My god, wow!!!

I don't get nothing extra with my endorsement, well thats not really true I get a drug round.LOL

I work in Victoria and they don't pay me extra, I work mainly nights, and now they expect me to be the Division 1. I have been endorsed for two years, and nothing much has changed. I hope other states are far better at handling these things than Vic.

talaxandra · Apr 18, 2008

Tina you might want to contact the ANF - you should be getting more money for your endorsement

nyapa, RN · Apr 21, 2008

Most of the ENs up here in the NT are endorsed, mainly through their CertIV training. But ENs are paid a straight wage, despite the qualification. About the only way an EN can earn extra money is by Becoming an 'exemplary practitioner'. You have to fill out pages of stuff, sit in an interview, display your knowledge and prove you go above and beyond, and then you get a few extra dollars a fortnight. Oh, and every three years it is reviewed...

talaxandra · Apr 22, 2008

Well that sucks! In Victoria Div 2's with endorsement get an additional allowance - I should have known not to assume that would be universal

katie258 · Apr 25, 2008

A circular went around my hosp about a month ago with a list of competancies(I can never spell that word, you should hear me pronounce it!) for EENs, also a list of proposed ones included catheterisation, placing NG tubes and cannulation. But no extra pay and we have to pay to do the courses just like the endorsment. If I wanted to have that level of responibility I'd have done the RN course. Next thing you know they'll want us to do in charge too!! Health service will go a long way to save some $$.

talaxandra · Apr 26, 2008

And, on the flip side, some Div 1's ask why they bothered with doing a degree if the Div 2's can do pretty much everything they can.

At least the courses, if you choose to do them, are tax deductable, but I agree - this expanding scope of practice is out of some Div 2's comfort zone, and opens the door further for unlicensed staff to perform basic nursing care.

Where I work Div 2's don't cannulate (in fact, lots of Div 1's, including me, don't either - but at least my work provides the training and for free). They can catheterise women and insert NGs if they're comfortable doing so, but there's no course involved.