How useful is EMT-B cert as an RN?

  1. Hi, I'm a newly licensed RN in MA. Before I went to nursing school I got my EMT-B certification, although I never worked as an EMT. Now my EMT cert is up for renewal and unfortunately I haven't done any of my required continuing education (28 hours + 24 hour EMT-B refresher course). Stupid, I know.

    I'm trying to figure out if I should go ahead and cram the ConEd into the next couple months, really the next couple weeks since I start my new RN job orientation at the end of the month. I'd probably have to do the refresher course on the weekends while I'm doing my RN orientation M-F.

    How useful is it to keep up the EMT-B cert as an RN? I am planning on moving to the ER after a couple years, would it help me there? I know it would take more time to get the cert again in the future, but I could probably also get it paid for by a future employer, whereas right now I'd have to pay all my ConEd costs out of pocket. Any advice/information you could give would be greatly appreciated!

    Phil
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  3. by   sherry730
    not really sure but IMO I would renew it! The more certificates usually the more you get paid.. esp if you are planning on going to work in the ER! not sure if this helped.. but good luck in your decision
  4. by   snowfreeze
    I had Paramedic certification prior to RN, I now have PHRN (pre hospital RN) which is a permanant certification. I used that when I flew with a hospital based critical care transport team. Some ERs like nurses to have a bit of pre-hospital experience or training. If you intend to pursue Emergency and/or flight nursing then keep the EMT current.
  5. by   RoxanRN
    Quote from Strahd
    I'm trying to figure out if I should go ahead and cram the ConEd into the next couple months, really the next couple weeks since I start my new RN job orientation at the end of the month. I'd probably have to do the refresher course on the weekends while I'm doing my RN orientation M-F.
    If your nursing school (or any portion of it) was within your EMT certification timeframe, talk to your state Board of EMS (or NREMT) to see if they can be applied to your recert hours. In my state (Kansas), I submitted my college credits for nursing school (with the appropriate documentation) and received approximately 80 CEUs PER SEMESTER toward EMT-P recertification (60 hours/2 years required)!!!

    And personally, I'd say renew your certification. I have maintained my EMT-P during and after nursing school. You'd be surprised how many CEUs can be applied to both!
  6. by   teeituptom
    an EMT B isnt very usefull at all
  7. by   gizmo12
    I have an EMT-B as well. It doesn't really help with nursing much, but hey, it is already finished, it is easy to keep up so why not keep it. I would love to finish my EMT training one day....
  8. by   TazziRN
    Unless you plan to actually use the cert, it doesn't really do anything to help you as an RN, other than to say that you had it while you were going to school (which is good). If you actually plan to use it at another job, then keep it.
  9. by   CapeCoralNurse2be
    I had my EMT license years ago and let it expire, and regret it now. Not that it would have really meant anything as and RN, but you just never know what turns life will take. Maybe one day you might want get your paramedic license and work as a flight nurse/medic or something, and if it's like it is in FL you must have your EMT to get into and/or challenge the Paramedic program even if you are already an RN. In fact I went to EMT school with and RN who worked in an ER but wanted to get a parmedic license. So since you already have it, I'd suggest keeping it active "just in case".
  10. by   danh3190
    [quote=RoxanRN2003]If your nursing school (or any portion of it) was within your EMT certification timeframe, talk to your state Board of EMS (or NREMT) to see if they can be applied to your recert hours. In my state (Kansas), I submitted my college credits for nursing school (with the appropriate documentation) and received approximately 80 CEUs PER SEMESTER toward EMT-P recertification (60 hours/2 years required)!!!

    quote]

    Wow! Anyone know if they'll do this in PA?
  11. by   Strahd
    [quote=danh3190]
    Quote from RoxanRN2003
    If your nursing school (or any portion of it) was within your EMT certification timeframe, talk to your state Board of EMS (or NREMT) to see if they can be applied to your recert hours. In my state (Kansas), I submitted my college credits for nursing school (with the appropriate documentation) and received approximately 80 CEUs PER SEMESTER toward EMT-P recertification (60 hours/2 years required)!!!

    quote]

    Wow! Anyone know if they'll do this in PA?
    Thank you for the possibility to investigate. I'm in MA, so we'll see what their policy is. i'd still have to take the emt refresher probably, but that's much more manageable given my time constraints.

    Although I'm still wondering if there's any specific cases in which being an EMT-B as well as an RN helped. The only thing I've seen so far is flight nursing.

    Phil
  12. by   EMTandNurse2B
    [QUOTE=danh3190]
    Quote from RoxanRN2003
    If your nursing school (or any portion of it) was within your EMT certification timeframe, talk to your state Board of EMS (or NREMT) to see if they can be applied to your recert hours. In my state (Kansas), I submitted my college credits for nursing school (with the appropriate documentation) and received approximately 80 CEUs PER SEMESTER toward EMT-P recertification (60 hours/2 years required)!!!

    quote]

    Wow! Anyone know if they'll do this in PA?
    Call or write your state licensing agency. In Mi, I'm going to be able to get some CEUs for my EMT-B, but not all I need. I'm hoping to not only keep up on my Mi EMT license, but my National Registry as well. Yes, I plan on using it as well as going on for my Paramedic one day. So, I'm stuck trying to get many of those expensive little things while trying to pass nursing school at the same time!
  13. by   Strahd
    Thank you everyone who responded to this thread and thanks especially to RoxanRN2003 for the info on credits for nursing courses.

    I talked to Boston's OEMS and they confirmed you will "usually have no problem" getting credits for EMT ConEd requirements for those courses. They just need a transcript and course descriptions. Although you still need to take the 24-hour EMT-B refresher course.

    Phil
  14. by   Schatzi RN CEN
    Two points:
    -I used to be a EMT-B, let it expire when I received my nursing license. Now I live in a small rural community where EMT's are in great demand and I wished I would have kept my cert up.
    -Another thing is that working in the ER I sometimes hear our nurses questioning why the pre hospital providers did one thing or another, and having been an EMT I often have an idea why some things were done the way they were (example. many pt's coming in with O2 per non rebreather at 15 lpm)

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