Published Dec 12, 2008
ecmicahrn
3 Posts
I am under contract with Global Scholarship Alliance here in the Philippines. I, together with some fellow nurses, were supposed to go to the US this December or early January next year under F1 visa for a part time work and full time study program. However, our employer (the hospital) backed out. We were told that it was because of the financial crisis the US are experiencing. Has the recession really affected the hiring of foreign nurses in the US and elsewhere in the world?
Silverdragon102, BSN
1 Article; 39,477 Posts
Yes we are seeing nurses being affected by recession and not just foreign nurses
Fiona59
8,343 Posts
Yup. Nurses who had left the field are now returning to work on a part time or casual basis when they found out that "retirement 55" is not a financially viable as they'd planned it to be.
Every country is rethinking overseas nurses. Those already in a country need to be provided with employment before adding more staff to the equation (staff that have to be relocated and given expensive orientations).
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pampangakid
46 Posts
They stop hiring foreign nurses temporarily because of the economic situations, but US employers (nursing homes, agencies for travel nurse, home visits and other small time hospitals) still need nurses, the problem is some nurses are very choosy, they want to work somewhere where they could earn more and would give them higher pay and benefits, if one is experiencing hardship he/she should not be choosy, maybe "pride" must be set aside in order to survive in times of crisis. Here in MD, nurses are still high on demand, all hospitals are still hiring nurses just don't be picky...
Not a case of nurses being choosy but not willing to put up with certain attitudes and actions of management
Nurses from third world country have high tolerance from pressure works, and that's one of the wonderful trait I have being a Filipino, and I know most of them do so, we have experienced a lot of hardships in the hospital settings in the Philippines like manpower problem(no enough aides), long hours of work just to earn more, high nurse-patient ratio(1:40), low pay:crying2: and not quite good hospital technology :banghead:and because of this we were able to stand whatever pains and hardships we are facing in the US because these hardships are just a piece of cake for most us.
Here's another job available for those nurses who are not choosy http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=52208
Ginger's Mom, MSN, RN
3,181 Posts
It is only 1000 positions with preference to foreign national who have helped the military overseas. This includes all health professions, I don't see this opening many doors for foreign nurses unless you have assisted the military in your country.
Let me tell you in the UK it is hard. For many years I worked with bad management, bad attitudes and low pay. Doesn't matter which country you are from you will see it is happening everywhere just people have different perspectives on how they are treated
OC85
263 Posts
Sorry to say, but I think thats part of the problem. If foreign nurses are willing to come in and work under terrible/unfair conditions, then US employers have no incentive to improve working conditions. To me, its not a "wonderful trait", its settling for less than you're worth and driving down the value of what nurses do.
Sorry, don't mean to offend anyone, just my
starbin, BSN, RN
406 Posts
No doubt foreign nurses are hard-working. But I don't like the justification for tolerating exploitation. This is one reason, I think, the nursing organizations should be careful about endorsing the idea of importing foreign nurses. I am a foreign educated nurse myself, and have a very high respect for and support those who want to migrate to the USA for better career. But it doesn't mean that I support the idea of putting up with the abusive attitudes of the management. It may be beneficial for the nurse, financially, to some extent. But in a long run, they are costing a lot for themselves and the thousands of other US nurses.
Employers like those who are quiet, tolerant, and work dangerously more for less wage. The nurses who come to the US should come with a mentality to be part of this country/culture/profession as a whole, not just a wage earner. Comparing the standard of a developing nation with that of USA may be a comforting approach for the foreign nurses, but it is not realistic.
If the nurses keep that only goal of "surviving" somewhere on the corner, and attempt to see themselves in a bigger picture , everybody will benefit.
I have seen a lot of exploitation and frustration among foreign nurses but very few protests, if any. For the US nurses, they are aware of their rights and try to fight for it. I don't think this is being choosy.
Sorry to say, but I think thats part of the problem. If foreign nurses are willing to come in and work under terrible/unfair conditions, then US employers have no incentive to improve working conditions. To me, its not a "wonderful trait", its settling for less than you're worth and driving down the value of what nurses do.:
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Agree with what you said-------- million percent.