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Lol, yeah you aren't going to short change patients imo because much to my dismay the DNP really doesn't offer anything in that regard as it stands now. Interesting that you don't care about accreditation but you make a decent point about it not mattering. I'm kicking it around myself so I have finally earned the official right to say "suck it" when I'm talking about the silly nursing courses required and throw the title Dr. A around on a very limited prn basis.
Haha about throwing the Dr title around on a limited prn basis :) have you done any research? With the little that I have done at state schools in my area (AZ) it seems like it is literally just a continuation of the BSN and beginning MSN courses where you just write a paper and then write another paper and move on to the next course.
And I would really love not doing more clinical hours for the DNP.
Haha about throwing the Dr title around on a limited prn basis :) have you done any research? With the little that I have done at state schools in my area (AZ) it seems like it is literally just a continuation of the BSN and beginning MSN courses where you just write a paper and then write another paper and move on to the next course.And I would really love not doing more clinical hours for the DNP.
I have done research under the direction of my department and I did not enjoy it. I picture DNP as basically writing papers about how superior I will be when I'm a "Dr". I can not justify the financial outlay because there is nothing in return at this point in my career other than the aforementioned ego factor and that isn't worth me parting with my hard earned dollars.
DNP will eventually be the only way to become an NP.
CNS will require DNP soon as will Nurse Anesthetist will require their doctorate.
Is DNP necessary right now? Not completely. Will it be necessary in the future? Absolutely.
DNP and NP is sought to be a parity degree with their counterpart the MD/DO.
We need to elevate our profession and career.
Public relations, the way the public view the NP as a doctor or a nurse.
Rather it's both, but in reality these sorts of things matter to the patient.
They also matter to the public, and the publics view.
NP wants to be equal to MD, or have full autonomy, right?
But an NP with a MSN can never be equal to an MD with their doctorate, not in the public eye.
White coat effect, placebo, initially impressions, and educational back ground also play a part in patient compliance, success of treatment, and satisfaction.
While it may not matter to an individual NP, or they may not see the point to the DNP, the profession is attempting to elevate itself to a new level.
It's a money grab, it's needed, it's not needed, it's a few extra papers, it's trivial, it's the future, its all of the above.
Its not so much what it is now, its what it is later for the profession as a whole.
DNP will eventually be the only way to become an NP.CNS will require DNP soon as will Nurse Anesthetist will require their doctorate.
Is DNP necessary right now? Not completely. Will it be necessary in the future? Absolutely.
DNP and NP is sought to be a parity degree with their counterpart the MD/DO.
We need to elevate our profession and career.
Public relations, the way the public view the NP as a doctor or a nurse.
Rather it's both, but in reality these sorts of things matter to the patient.
They also matter to the public, and the publics view.
NP wants to be equal to MD, or have full autonomy, right?
But an NP with a MSN can never be equal to an MD with their doctorate, not in the public eye.
White coat effect, placebo, initially impressions, and educational back ground also play a part in patient compliance, success of treatment, and satisfaction.
While it may not matter to an individual NP, or they may not see the point to the DNP, the profession is attempting to elevate itself to a new level.
It's a money grab, it's needed, it's not needed, it's a few extra papers, it's trivial, it's the future, its all of the above.
Its not so much what it is now, its what it is later for the profession as a whole.
I felt like I was reading a poem here haha
Well said about the reasoning behind. I want to be ahead of the curve as well as not be 10 years out of school when I'm told I have 3 years to complete the DNP per legislation ect.
You'll be grandfathered in. No different than pharmacy when they made the transition. No different than physical therapy or pick any medical profession. The way they stop the masters from practicing is not allowing them to sit the the certification test. Come on now. How long have we been pushing for BSN level to be mandatory. Many say the BSN adds little value to ADN for clinical work. Well I would say the exact same thing for DNP. It's been over 40 years for the BSN argument. Good luck with your added 30 credits for the doctorate not one that will increase diagnosis, assessment, pharmacology, diagnostics, or the like.
ClayH
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I am finishing up my FNP program and
would like to take the last step and get my
DNP. I am doing this just for my own pride as there really isn't a lot more for a clinical NP in my role to gain from it (scope, title, salary). I am finishing my 5th college degree so needless to say I am burnt out on school for a lifetime. Therefore, I am really looking for the DNP program with the minimum program requirements. Accreditation isn't really a concern since there is essentially nothing attached to this degree I.e. lisensure.
Please don't reply with the "why are you shortchanging your patients by going to a less than reputable school" comments. I am just looking any helpful suggestions
Thanks!