Doc rage

micro, RN · May 23, 2002

:p just micro chirpin back in after a roadtrip!!!!!

of course please forgive me for my almost 14 day away from the h.......(escapism=vacation) that we find ourselves in everyday......but i even in my worst day=days.........try to escape it.........

micro is not a doc=fact.....

micro gives respect to the docs........

micro gives respect to micro's fellow nurses and especially more experienced nurses...........and micro is not a gn.............................

just that respect................................................................................................

should extend in all realms of this profession as well as ?????

????

:p so what ever happened to respect and ????? of the past.....whether agree or disagree?????????

just a ???

micro is back and

out of here...........

**canoehead, BSN, RN** · May 24, 2002

nursebutterfly

Just wondering how fast you were going on that Moncton to Halifax 2h trip. If warp drive is available I will need to talk with you because it takes me twice that.

And warp drive would cut my whole trip home down to ONLY 6 hours. Jeez I miss Canada sometimes.

LasVegasRN · May 24, 2002

Originally posted by fergus51
Update:

Our nurse manager was in and actually (GASP!) supported me in my raging!!! The anesthesiologist came in and complained to her about me and she actually asked him to leave the nursing station if he wasn't there to see any patients! I just about fell over. Did I mention how much I love our new nurse manager?

Now THIS is nurse unity. I love it!

Nursemelo · May 25, 2002

canoehead, maybe it was more like 2 1/2 but 3 maximum driving the spead limit.... :) they've got a new highway up now. Have you been up here lately?

KaraLea, LVN · May 25, 2002

I once had a patient admitted with a 103 F temp but no APAP or Ibuprofin ordered. "WHAT DO YOU MEAN ADMITTING A PATIENT WITH THAT KIND OF TEMP AND NOT ORDERING ANYTHING?" I called the doc to verify and sure enough he refused to give her anything. I called my Nursing supervisor who promptly called the doctor too. She was on my side but the doc continued to insist that the temp is OK, just to put cool clothes on her forehead, armpits, neck, groin, etc...That the Temp is "Burning off the Germ"

**canoehead, BSN, RN** · May 25, 2002

Yep, was home 2 weeks ago and got myself a huge donair and a Tim's coffee (yumyum). I love the new highway although the hike in tolls stinks. Cobequid Pass is gorgeous in the fall, they should build some look off points, and a gas station by the toll booths.

LasVegasRN · May 25, 2002

Originally posted by KaraLea
I once had a patient admitted with a 103 F temp but no APAP or Ibuprofin ordered. "WHAT DO YOU MEAN ADMITTING A PATIENT WITH THAT KIND OF TEMP AND NOT ORDERING ANYTHING?" I called the doc to verify and sure enough he refused to give her anything. I called my Nursing supervisor who promptly called the doctor too. She was on my side but the doc continued to insist that the temp is OK, just to put cool clothes on her forehead, armpits, neck, groin, etc...That the Temp is "Burning off the Germ"

We had a doc like this running around the Cleveland Clinic chanting "Fever is your Friend" for quite a while. I used to imagine a commercial with a brain in a skillet saying, "This is your brain.... this is your brain on FIRE". :rolleyes:

Riseupandnurse · Jun 5, 2002

We have a few doctors who don't seem to really care about their patients, but the majority of our doctors do. This is a small community, and peer pressure is a wonderful thing at times, maybe.

I just switched doctors. I've always preferred female doctors, but after this latest one left town, I thought about which doctor gave the best care to patients. After eleven years as a hospital nurse, I've seen them all in action. When I was a fairly new nurse working the night shift, I had a patient start to go into septicemia (although I didn't know that at the time; I just knew something was wrong). I called this doctor with pretty vague hunches, he gave me orders, and thirty minutes later he showed up at the hospital to take care of her. At 2:00 in the morning. I've never seen another doctor take the initiative like this before or since. So I decided he would be a good choice for my own doctor. And is he ever!!

We need to patronize the doctors who care, recommend them to others, and sing their praises. If nurses don't know who the good doctors are. who does? :)

Anagray, BSN · Jun 5, 2002

I've been dealing with American doctors more as a patient , than anything else. Since many docs treat nurses like crap, techs like myself are simply not even identified as human beings.

Medicine is a type of business, just like any other job. It really should not be that way, but it is.

This is why in this society a consumer ( in our case, a patient) needs to be smart and do research, ask their doctor questions and not allow treatment without a clear picture of what exactly is going to happen.

No sane person will go out and buy something expensive without shopping around, so trusting your life into someone's hands should be the same, not matter what country u are living in.

It's very sad that many physicians are in it purely for financial purposes. It should be different, and while there are no changes happening in this direction, people need to educate themselves, considering how much information there is available.

peter73 · Jun 5, 2002

I got the worst picture of a Doc the first week of a job once.

Had a patient dying, DNR/DNI. Respiratory distress all the way with resps 40+ gasping and labored. His eyes wide in that panic look. He was moaning between gasps and grabbing at my shirt, arm whatever he could reach. I called and attempted to get MS04 or at least atavan for comfort. The Doc really laid into me about this not being needed this is death and how bad would I feel if I gave the MS and he died shortly after...

and he would be no part of it. It was my problem and I needed to accept death as God brings it. He would not push a patient over the edge to make a nurse feel better...So I had to march my butt back to the room and sit holding this poor guys hand while he gasped, trying to calm him. All the time I sat talking to my patient I kept thinking You get what you sow and some day it will be that Doc. He died 6 hours later, 6 hours of panic every time he was left alone, attempted to swollow or went into caughing fits.

peter

sandstormsdust · Jun 11, 2002

Doc rage going on here BIG TIME... sadly I agree....

Come to think about it... more often I end up insisting on specialists and/or self diagnosing myself. My grand-father has been abused by doctors who are in it for money and sadly my mother cared for my grandmother up untill her death because doctors didn't see why to stop her suffering.... she was almost in the grave anyway....

I find that the best docs are well into retirement and are doing there job out of compassion.... I wonder how many of the older doctors weep for the younger ones who are doctors by money and not by hard work and love?????

bestblondRN · Jun 11, 2002

I guess what I wonder after reading all of this is how anyone could live with themselves and sleep at night after denying pain meds, antipyretics and the like. I know not every hospital has them, but I have often used our physician ethicist and even our risk management department to intervene when patient rights are being violated, and that is exactly what many of you have described in this thread. If you have them in your hospital, use them to help when you can't get what you need for your patient and/or their rights are being violated.