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We have all heard the saying "Nurses eat their young". Do you feel this is true?
Please feel free to read and post any comments that you have right here in this discussion
Thanks.
This article sums it up for me... ?
http://www.dcardillo.com/articles/eatyoung.html
QuoteThis vile expression implies that experienced nurses do not treat new nurses kindly. My first problem with the statement is that it’s a generalization implying that all nurses are like that. Interestingly, whenever I hear someone utter the expression, I always say, “I don’t do that. Do you?” The person making the statement always says, “Oh no, I don’t, but many others do.” I’ve never heard even one nurse own up to doing this, although some nurses are willing to indict the entire profession. Every time that statement is repeated, it causes harm and casts a dark shadow on every nurse. Say anything enough, and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Please note that by moderator consensus some of the "Nurses Eat Their Young" posts will be referred to this thread where there can be an ongoing discussion, rather than several threads saying the same thing.
To students and new grads that are having problems with nurses, please take a moment to read the above link. Is it really the entire profession, every single nurse, or do you need help with one or a few nurses? We will be glad to help you in dealing with those people, but let bury the phrase "Nurses Eat Their Young".
To experienced nurses who claim our profession eats it's young, please take a moment to read it as well and think about it. Also take time to teach, be friendly and nurturing to the new nurse and students on your unit.
mahage, it really sounds like you are being harassed, if she thought she could call you two hours after your shift ended. if this happens again, i would make her feel uncomfortable by turning the question right back on her, as you had thought about doing. you don't have to talk to this person hours after your shift has ended. it is her job, then, and she is responsible, not you. you signed off. either don't answer the phone, or turn the tables. barrage her with questions. when she asks you a question, turn it back on her. she will learn that she cannot beat up on you and she will stop bothering you. you are probably a very kind and nice person. she is being out of line. if you cannot correct the situation, you have the right to go over her head to get it resolved. creating a hostile environment is a serious problem and you do not have to tolerate it.
blessings on you:smilecoffeecup::smilecoffeecup:
vivere
i still kind of like the idea of ignoring another's bad behavior. she's just a jerk, let's face it. i am sure everyone tip toes around her. we have someone like that, too. great nursing skills, but a jerk nonetheless.....she is not going to change. but you can change your response to her. her complaints about others, her drive to be on top and browbeat others is just a symptom of a person with feelings of inadequacy. if you remember that, it might help you in your dealings with her. sometimes it is difficult to see that people who are so full of themselves are masking feelings of inferiority. praise yourself, to yourself. do your best, and that is all anyone can ask. do not let people interrupt you continually during your report. if they do, ask them to save their questions until you finish. there is nothing ruder than a nurse who is so busy rifling through the chart and asking questions that she is not listening to report. i hope these ideas help you. you are not alone. we all at some time experience the same things.
vivere
mahage, it really sounds like you are being harassed, if she thought she could call you two hours after your shift ended. if this happens again, i would make her feel uncomfortable by turning the question right back on her, as you had thought about doing. you don't have to talk to this person hours after your shift has ended. it is her job, then, and she is responsible, not you. you signed off. either don't answer the phone, or turn the tables. barrage her with questions. when she asks you a question, turn it back on her. she will learn that she cannot beat up on you and she will stop bothering you. you are probably a very kind and nice person. she is being out of line. if you cannot correct the situation, you have the right to go over her head to get it resolved. creating a hostile environment is a serious problem and you do not have to tolerate it.blessings on you:smilecoffeecup::smilecoffeecup:
vivere
vivere,
that issue was posted by bonesgilmore in the phillipines. she is 21 yo who is having a load of trouble from one nasty charge. i was quoting her issues and trying to give her some suggestions. i have not problem dealing with outright harrassment personally, it is the subtle stuff that i am having more problems dealing with. thanks for your interest though. maybe bonesgilmore will find it and apply it to her situation.
mahage
I'm a May '08 BSN grad and I've been working since June on an LTACH unit. There's this one day nurse who always makes life hell for us newbies when we give her report. She's threatened to write me up several times for really stupid things...like not bladder scanning a patient (he was voiding large amts and the nurse who gave me report wasn't bladder scanning him either-I honestly thought the order was to bladder scan if no void), giving IV push Morphine and PO Vicodin in the same night (at different times, mind you, for breakthrough pain, and I called specifically to get the order and told the doc what else the pt was on. seriously, what's wrong with that?).
She obsesses about getting patients out of bed and insists that nights should be getting patients up in the chair. Normally, if the pts. need to get up they get them up in the chair for mealtimes on days. She doesn't understand that we aren't staffed at night to be able to get all our people up, and that by the time we did it would be way past their bedtime.
My favorite was when she began report by asking me where I went to nursing school, and then said, "what did they teach you at ______about stripping JP drains?" I was pretty sure I was taught NOT to strip them. But she proceeded to march into the patient's room and give me a lesson on milking the JP. When she left I asked my charge and 3 coworkers about it...they all told me not to strip it.
Anyway, this woman had me in tears a couple times, but a couple charge nurses at different times reported how she was treating me and she was "talked to." I haven't had a problem with her in a while, but one of my other newbie coworkers said that she got a sticky note from her with stuff that she had missed from the night before.
Anyway, I'm thankful for the charge nurses who stuck up for me--my experience has been that there are more gracious people than newbie-eaters. :)
MILKING A JP?????Forgive me but I am unfamiliar with milking a JP?, can't say I remember ever Milking a JP I missed the class on MILKING a JP what school is that from? Farmers University of Nursing ???
Milking the JP tube is when you move the blood or fluid in the tube by squeezing it between your finger and thumb while sliding them down the tube toward the bulb. We we specifically told NOT to do that. Some nurses still do it, but it is considered poor practice. The only time we were told we might work it abit, if it appeared to be stopped up. I think the idea behind milking it is to make sure it doesn't clog, but like I said, I was taught it is not a good practice and is no longer standard of care.
Mahage
aloevera
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agree, I just love working with a "super nurse"....I say, let them go and I can have a few minutes break on my shift !!!! only when they get to talking too much about all they know and their accomplishments does it start to annoy me, then I just go check on my pts...