DNP Article

caldje · Dec 16, 2007

Or on the PA forum, either. They also have spirited discussions about which profession is better. Guess what they think!
Oldiebutgoodie

Very true. Can you imagine what would happen if everyone sat down, agreed on their differences, strengths, and weaknesses and looked to improve on them? Maybe someone should do that?

oldiebutgoodie, RN · Dec 16, 2007

Very true. Can you imagine what would happen if everyone sat down, agreed on their differences, strengths, and weaknesses and looked to improve on them? Maybe someone should do that?

Yep, it would be amazing if the PAs and NPs could get together and design a midlevel curriculum. Of course it will never happen. But whether anybody likes it or not, midlevels are here to stay.

I recently tried to see my primary care doc for an acute illness, and couldn't get in. So what's the point? If they had a PA or NP, I would have seen that person instead. The medical community constantly harps on the "doctor patient relationship", which I would love to have, but I can't even get an appointment.

Oldiebutgoodie

patrick1rn, MSN, RN, NP · Dec 16, 2007

Most nursing educators and theorist do not have the concept of reality about the role of the NP. Some do, Im not here to debate that. I dont know the goal of the DNP if they want to make on par with the MD or the DO physicians. I seriously doubt this could happen because I have looked no school has the same goals. That isnt my problem though. I am still a FNP student with ten months to go, I want to get my niche and get my peice of the pie like everyone else, and it is a big pie , plenty to eat, so whats the big deal.

MDs have to accept that NPs are here to stay, NPs programs for that matter need to tighten things up a bit, the DNP should be welcomed, but more clarification needs to be done.

amzyRN · Dec 17, 2007

My only issue with the DNP is that the curriculum doesn't appeal to me. It doesn't seem to expand upon the physiological/medical component of NP practice. It seems to be more geared toward administration, research, predicting outcomes, blah...I'm not certain that that will get more esteem and validation from other professions. I'm more into the clinical aspect of NP practice that uses a nursing perspective (looking at response to illness) and incorporates medical interventions. I'd love to have the opportunity to study more advanced biological science (which I love!) and apply that to my practice. I'd also love to do a residency that included more of a generalist focus, like the PA program.

In short, I don't have a problem with the introduction of a DNP, but the curriculum doesn't interest me and in my opinion it is somewhat superfluous,

J

core0 · Dec 17, 2007

My only issue with the DNP is that the curriculum doesn't appeal to me. It doesn't seem to expand upon the physiological/medical component of NP practice. It seems to be more geared toward administration, research, predicting outcomes, blah...I'm not certain that that will get more esteem and validation from other professions. I'm more into the clinical aspect of NP practice that uses a nursing perspective (looking at response to illness) and incorporates medical interventions. I'd love to have the opportunity to study more advanced biological science (which I love!) and apply that to my practice. I'd also love to do a residency that included more of a generalist focus, like the PA program.
In short, I don't have a problem with the introduction of a DNP, but the curriculum doesn't interest me and in my opinion it is somewhat superfluous,
J

Things may shake out a bit. The DNP curriculum as described by NONPF should include pharmacology, pathophysiology and disease processes as well as additional clinical time in the area of NP practice. For their own reasons many of the initial DNP programs seem to implementing the DNP in a different manner. Presumably as part of the evaluation process these programs will come a little closer to the suggested curriculum. Here is a link to the NONPF DNP practice site. The curriculum templates have most of the information that you are looking for:

http://www.nonpf.com/NONPF2005/PracticeDoctorateResourceCenter/PDresource.htm

David Carpenter, PA-C