I was arrested and for shoplifting abt $30 worth of items from a grocery store in 2009. my first offense, I am in NEW JERSEY
It was lowered to township ordinance, disorderly persons
I am in the nursing program and I had a background check in 2008 when i began clinicals so my school was not aware of this charge but I thought they did a check every year so they knew.
my school knows now bc i mentioned it when referring to something else.
Since my school has has affliction with the hospitals they made an an agreement none of the students have a positive background check.
I dont know if my school would wants someone wants a thief in there a nursing program and if they did. They would have to advocate for me because the clinical sites might not want me there because of my charge.
Does anyone know if clinical sites allow student with someone with a positive background in their hospitals...
I am able to apply for expungement next year but i dont know if they would wait until it was expunge to let me continue.
Also I was dismissed from the program in 2009 after the semester bc i fail a class but was readmitted bc i requested re-admittance in 2010( i was back in the program after I was arrested ) so this nursing program has already been gracious to me. I am not sure if this may effect their decision..
i dont intend on ever doing something like this ever again and i am sorry .. i dont know where my head was at when i did this in the first place. If I told anyone I this this the would be in disbelief and completely shocked and it does not reflect who i am but I dont know if the nursing school or clincials sites will see it like this... is anyone familiar with this???
and why does this go on my criminal record if it is not a criminal offense???
i hope this person works with you phoenixtech. sorry i was always taught nurses are held in high respect and much is expected of them. nursing is a job that demands honesty. if you go into this field or think you want to you should have enough sense, good moral values and ethical decision making abilities to not mess up like that. people are entrusting there life with your every decision. i wonder why this person wants to be a nurse. it's a rewarding but hard job. if your just going into it because you think you'll make good money your wasting your time. the money is ok but you have to really love and want to do this or you will burn out quick. this person also needs to be more worried about what the state boards and future employers will think. i'm sure everyone will think this is a mean comment but for all those who do i bet there are twice as many who wouldn't say it just cause they thought it wouldn't be politically correct.
are you talking to me?
i also believe people make some mistakes, but never theft, or the like; as it's not an option. i guess i grew up with a deeper moral compass than some. i do hope you turn your life around because in any job, especially nursing there needs to be complete honesty. what would you do should you give a wrong medication to a patient? would you cover it up and act as if it never happen? this is just one of the many reasons there can be no dishonesty in nursing. a nurse must be "blemish free".
:yawn:if you only knew.
i received a pm from the op and she posted in a literate manner with good sentence structure. i've seen posts on this board from rn's that read worse than that. if you've never been anxious enough to get the words out during periods of distress and the result was something akin to jumble, just keep coming.
people draw your claws back in. do a little checking in your local area's and take note of all of the rn's enrolled in drug monitering program, have suspended licenses and/or have lost their licenses all together. better yet, work with them. i work with a rn who just a couple of months ago sacrificed me to the physician due to this particular rn's laziness. save the speaches about honest, blemish free rn's. all of our s*** stinks, whatever the skeleton in your closet, how ever many cobwebs it has on it, if you turn it over and observed the smear on it's coccyx, it's s*** and it stinks! lay off.
i received a pm from the op and she posted in a literate manner with good sentence structure. i've seen posts on this board from rn's that read worse than that. if you've never been anxious enough to get the words out during periods of distress and the result was something akin to jumble, just keep coming.
people draw your claws back in. do a little checking in your local area's and take note of all of the rn's enrolled in drug monitering program, have suspended licenses and/or have lost their licenses all together. better yet, work with them. i work with a rn who just a couple of months ago sacrificed me to the physician due to this particular rn's laziness. save the speaches about honest, blemish free rn's. all of our s*** stinks, whatever the skeleton in your closet, how ever many cobwebs it has on it, if you turn it over and observed the smear on it's coccyx, it's s*** and it stinks! lay off.
i don't disagree that their are lot's of nurses in drug monitoring programs, have suspended licenses, and/or have lost their license. i've even worked with one who ended up in a drug monitoring program (and that's a whole other interesting story there). i just think we are a society of give me one more chance to get it right even though i messed up in a real bad way. personally i'm sick of this whole, "i deserve one more chance" mantra. how many one more chances are there? i probably feel this way cause over the years i have had to work with nurses who are lazy, dishonest and just don't care. yet they keep getting one more chance. others have to work harder to pick up their slack.
if we want the world as a whole to hold nursing in high regard, respect us, give us a hand in shaping the future of healthcare, we have to prove ourselves worthy of the honor and only accept the best of the best into nursing schools and our work places. we need to set high standards. in healthcare you don't always have one more chance. sometimes there is just one opportunity to get it right, if you don't get it right someone dies.
in reference to the rn who "sacrificed" you to the physician, i assume what ever this person said about you was a lie and that's why it irritates you. it seems like this would be an argument to get rid of people who are dishonest before they have a chance to get rn placed behind their name.
yes, all our s*** stinks. i agree with this too. i'm not saying i've never made mistakes. i'm 100% sure i'll make more. the difference is there are unintentional and intentional mistakes. dishonesty is a very intentional mistake that should not be tolerated. if we would refuse tolerate it in nursing schools their might be less nurses out there putting blemishes on the title of rn and lpn.
i also believe people make some mistakes, but never theft, or the like; as it's not an option. i guess i grew up with a deeper moral compass than some. i do hope you turn your life around because in any job, especially nursing there needs to be complete honesty. what would you do should you give a wrong medication to a patient? would you cover it up and act as if it never happen? this is just one of the many reasons there can be no dishonesty in nursing. a nurse must be "blemish free".
i hope you search deep within yourself and are able to become a better you as second chances don't come around often. i sincerely wish you well in your future endeavors.
it must be immensely satisfying to be so perfect... and blemish-free.
where is this deep moral compass of yours... and do you need some help removing it?
i don't argue the need for integrity and morals... but i do abhor holier-than-thou preaching.
I agree that the OP needs more ENG 101 first and foremost. That being said, it is a wee bit ironic that you misspelled exude and intelligence in your post. Perhaps you should take some of your own advice? ;-)
Elle
I want you to seriously consider focusing on your communication and 'speaking'. Take some extra classes, what ever will work for you. As a nurse you are needed to educate, speak and act professional and exhude intellegence for patients and their family to gain trust with you and your advice. This is not at all how you have presented yourself here in this post.
Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.
i also believe people make some mistakes, but never theft, or the like; as it’s not an option. i guess i grew up with a deeper moral compass than some. i do hope you turn your life around because in any job, especially nursing there needs to be complete honesty. what would you do should you give a wrong medication to a patient? would you cover it up and act as if it never happen? this is just one of the many reasons there can be no dishonesty in nursing. a nurse must be “blemish free”.
i hope you search deep within yourself and are able to become a better you as second chances don't come around often. i sincerely wish you well in your future endeavors.
oh please, it's not always about morals, sometimes it comes down to survival. when i was pregnant with my first son i was in a really bad situation. i was in a very abusive situation, i had tried to work and it lasted a few weeks before my boy friend was to jealous and didn't allow it. i had gone 3 days without eating when i finally walked to the gas station when he was gone for a few hours, loaded up with bread and sandwich meat and cheese and walked out.
was it right to steal? absolutely not. did that mean i had no morals? no i was starving and i was desperate and i was in survival mode. people do stupid things in moments of desperation.
we don't know the op reasons or situation. sure it doesn't still make it ok, but things are not always black and white. she acknowledged what she did was wrong and a mistake. she came here looking for answers on where she can go from here, not to get a moral spanking.
i am also glad you grew up with such a great moral compass, not everyone is so lucky. some of us grew up in really bad situations with really messed up parents that showed all of the wrong to do and none of the right and it wasn't any fault of our own, unless being born is the childs fault.
You know what, personally, I'm sick of people coming to this site seeking support and before anyone knows what the story is, swords raise in the air, wings grow and the angels of judgment come sweeping down to deliver the moral blow. What about the patient who comes back and forth because they aren't cooperative with their discharge care plans, do you refuse care because they don't deserve 'one more chance' ? Do you turn up your nose and grumble behind their backs about how they got what they deserved because 'they intentionally ate that extra piece of cake and they knew they were a diabetic' ?
People learn by making errors, whatever the errors, and I know that I've needed many more chances than one to mature into the empathetic, compassionate, intelligent, caring, responsible, respectful and spiritual person that I am. At the end of the day, I'd want someone caring for me that has been through a few storms and have had, as well as developed the character to come up out of them and, (how about this), are better for it.
I could care less about how the world views Nursing as a whole and their regards. I don't work for them, I work for GOD and if I can come home knowing that the skills that he's blessed me with have been put to use for the service of 'man' according to his teachings, I'm pleased and I thank him for it. When I fall short, I learn the lesson and do different next time.
I posted about the suspension of licenses and the like because in all honesty, you don't know who you are working with and standing beside. This is the OP's first brush with the law, who the hell says she should be banned from Nursing because....."Oh my GOD, she stole!" Get real!
As far as my situation goes, a RN left a banana in a pt.'s room instead of removing it because the pt.'s K+ was too high. As I was making rounds doing my vitals, said pt.'s call bell was ringing and said RN was standing at the desk eyeing the room. I go in and hand the pt. the banana after I did vitals and the RN incredulously told me that I shouldn't have. Later, I heard him explaining to the physician that I went and gave the pt. a banana, while conveniently leaving out that the banana was left in the room, when in reality it shouldn't have been in there if the pt. couldn't have it. I could have easily been a family member, not to mention if the RN had answered the bell instead of waiting for me to do it................
Anyway, while it irritated me, I didn't dwell on it because that's between this particular RN and their maker. Yes, mistakes can cost lives, not just in healthcare either, but I hardly think that it's my job to moniter who does what, when they do it, if they did it correctly, if they spit on the ground when they were five, if they stole cookies because they were hungry and had no cash, if they pulled their little sister's hair when they were ten, if she slept with her sister's husband.......etc. You get the point.
i received a pm from the op and she posted in a literate manner with good sentence structure. i've seen posts on this board from rn's that read worse than that. if you've never been anxious enough to get the words out during periods of distress and the result was something akin to jumble, just keep coming.
people draw your claws back in. do a little checking in your local area's and take note of all of the rn's enrolled in drug monitering program, have suspended licenses and/or have lost their licenses all together. better yet, work with them. i work with a rn who just a couple of months ago sacrificed me to the physician due to this particular rn's laziness. save the speaches about honest, blemish free rn's. all of our s*** stinks, whatever the skeleton in your closet, how ever many cobwebs it has on it, if you turn it over and observed the smear on it's coccyx, it's s*** and it stinks! lay off.
all is can say is again - i was raised with a high moral compass and this has nothing to do with how others might act out. so, please save your lectures for people of such calibra. you response is so unlike the person i have followed on this site and very disappointing to say the least.
Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.
All is can say is AGAIN - I was raised with a high moral compass and this has NOTHING to do with how others might act out. So, please save your lectures for people of such calibra. You response is so unlike the person I have followed on this site and very disappointing to say the least.
SHAME ON YOU!
Wow Really???? Shame on you?
I don't think putting down others is what people with a high moral compasses would do. Hmmm maybe that's just me, I am sure my moral compass is probably beneath yours. I mean after all, I try to not be so quick to judge others but instead try to be understanding and realize everyone's situations are unique.
all is can say is again - i was raised with a high moral compass and this has nothing to do with how others might act out. so, please save your lectures for people of such calibra. you response is so unlike the person i have followed on this site and very disappointing to say the least.
shame on you!
likewise! as i read through your posts today i happened upon the thread, 'retired nurse survive stormy 17 hours trapped in van'. you posted about judgements, [until we have been in such an incident and of same mind no one can judge what another should have done during that moment.] a direct quote might i add.
yet you sit here spewing bull about your 'moral compass'! i've also noticed that you start many of your posts with 'i don't understand' and from this particular post that i'm replying to, i'd agree. you don't seem to understand a lot. i have no idea what you are talking about or why you felt the need to respond to me when another poster addressed you directly, questioning this strong 'moral compass' of yours. you talk about the lord yet you sit there with such a judgemental attitude that i can feel the disgust pouring from your fingers with every word that you type. no doubt your pts feel it also.
i don't post for a following, i post as my heart dictates and your respect or lack thereof is of no consequence to me. none......believe that. also know this, you have no idea how shameful i'm capable of getting. i've lived in the real world, with real issues, circumstances, and a wealth of shameful experiences. most of them beyond my control, some as a result of poor choices on my part. i'm a survivor by god's grace and mercy and people who appear to have no tolerance for the life experiences of others, in my humble opinion, don't belong in nursing.
I don't think putting down others is what people with a high moral compasses would do. Hmmm maybe that's just me, I am sure my moral compass is probably beneath yours. I mean after all, I try to not be so quick to judge others but instead try to be understanding and realize everyone's situations are unique.
Oh really, and what were you doing in the post I replied to? What do you call that? My guess is that you do not even know what a moral compass is. Again, Shame on you!
Your responses are not professional; thus I will no longer dignify them with an answer.
likewise! as i read through your posts today i happened upon the thread, 'retired nurse survive stormy 17 hours trapped in van'. you posted about judgements, [until we have been in such an incident and of same mind no one can judge what another should have done during that moment.] a direct quote might i add.
yet you sit here spewing bull about your 'moral compass'! i've also noticed that you start many of your posts with 'i don't understand' and from this particular post that i'm replying to, i'd agree. you don't seem to understand a lot. i have no idea what you are talking about or why you felt the need to respond to me when another poster addressed you directly, questioning this strong 'moral compass' of yours. you talk about the lord yet you sit there with such a judgemental attitude that i can feel the disgust pouring from your fingers with every word that you type. no doubt your pts feel it also.
i don't post for a following, i post as my heart dictates and your respect or lack thereof is of no consequence to me. none......believe that. also know this, you have no idea how shameful i'm capable of getting. i've lived in the real world, with real issues, circumstances, and a wealth of shameful experiences. most of them beyond my control, some as a result of poor choices on my part. i'm a survivor by god's grace and mercy and people who appear to have no tolerance for the life experiences of others, in my humble opinion, don't belong in nursing.
are you talking to me?
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"Oh my GOD, she stole!" Get real!
PhoenixTech, LPN
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:yawn:if you only knew.
i received a pm from the op and she posted in a literate manner with good sentence structure. i've seen posts on this board from rn's that read worse than that. if you've never been anxious enough to get the words out during periods of distress and the result was something akin to jumble, just keep coming.
people draw your claws back in. do a little checking in your local area's and take note of all of the rn's enrolled in drug monitering program, have suspended licenses and/or have lost their licenses all together. better yet, work with them. i work with a rn who just a couple of months ago sacrificed me to the physician due to this particular rn's laziness. save the speaches about honest, blemish free rn's. all of our s*** stinks, whatever the skeleton in your closet, how ever many cobwebs it has on it, if you turn it over and observed the smear on it's coccyx, it's s*** and it stinks! lay off.