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Dismissed from nursing school...appeal denied

I was in my second level of clinicals. Our school's dismissal policy is that you can't fail anymore than two nursing courses. However, there is an appeal procedure for students that have been dismissed.

I am a good student. I got excellent grades in first level, not to mention all of my prereqs.

One of the classes I failed, I felt that the grades were not weighted fairly. Our grades were quizzes and skills checkoffs (IV's, NG tubes, etc). Well, we had about 7 quizzes and 4 checkoffs. I made A's on all of the checkoffs plus 5 of the quizzes. I failed two of the quizzes, which caused me to fail the entire class since all together everything was only 200 points.

Long story short, I had a lot of health problems last semester. I spent many days in the emergency room not only for myself, but also my husband, who had emergency surgery. I have endometriosis which is very painful when it flares up, plus I was also diagnosed with hypothyroidism.

The difference in energy and concentration ability when I was not on thyroid medication vs. now that I am is like night and day.

So, I appealed my dismissal, with a nice long "feel sorry for me" letter, and I found out today that it was denied. I know that I slacked off last semester, it would have been hard not to in my situation, however I am a good student and feel that I deserve a second chance.

So basically, what I am wondering, is my nursing education over for good? Will any other schools take me since I have been dismissed from my program? Has anyone here ever been in my shoes?

I, myself, got a raw deal. Am dealing with the repercussions 10 yrs later as best I can. There is only so much an indiv can do. That is why I often advise posters in some kind of similar trouble to strongly consider, not rocking the boat. Likewise, became acquainted with several indiv who also left nrsg program under adverse circumstances. We all know that there is a difference between someone who fails out legitimately and someone who gets screwed over. Often, others portray people who complain or talk about bad situations as whiners, complainers, or not being truthful. People that I met, were working RN's who were able to walk into neighboring nrsg programs and finish. I distinctly remember one who told me that her story was met with the attitude "we know what/who you are talking about; you are not the first/nor the last; we have taken many who were booted from that program........". Nice that it worked out for these people. However, recently, our state affiliate of the ANA mailed out a newsletter which contained an article quoting the statistics, that as of 2004(?) there were approx (just shy of) 15,000 qualified applicants who were turned away from nrsg programs in this state. I do not believe that anybody could get booted from any nrsg prog nowadays, and just walk into another. That's just the way it is.

I can't believe they'd put that much weight on a quiz. :uhoh21: I'm sorry to hear about this, maybe you can apply to another school or hold off a semester and return?

There was a guy in our class (2nd semester) who was told to withdrawl because he had a broken leg. It was upsetting because he was an extremely hard worker, never missed a class (not even the day after he broke his leg), always made good grades and yet 2-3 weeks before the end of the semester they made him withdraw. They said it was because he couldn't complete clinicals, but he would have only missed two or three. They could have made other arrangements for him....in my opinion, lab work etc...(as they've done for people before) especially since there are plenty others who missed class all the time for no good reason. :nono: Now he will have to re-do the entire semester and possibly wait a year to get back in...Sigh! To make things worsehe quit his job of many years to enter nursing school, so his wife was the one bringing home the bacon and now he's sitting on borrowed time just waiting. Arg...drives me mad. :angryfire

Things like this happen and often times there is nothing you can do about it. Again, I'm sorry you were denied.

pkapple

Specializes in er/icu/neuro/trauma/pacu.

Re-apply for next semester, good students have bad days (or semesters).

An LPN I work with worked an extra day shift, then her young son kept her up all night with a GI bug (translate-puky,whiny,messy night, NO SLEEP) she failed her 7am math/meds test by ONE point - long story short- out of the program. But she re-applied and will be an RN this spring!!!!

Another young man was 3 weeks from graduation when Uncle Sam decided he was needed in IRAQ! He survived, had to reapply and is now one of my favorite newer nurses at work

So keep your chin up, re-apply to your program or another if nearby, yes you may have to repeat somethings, it will be worth it.

There was a guy in our class (2nd semester) who was told to withdrawl because he had a broken leg. It was upsetting because he was an extremely hard worker, never missed a class (not even the day after he broke his leg), always made good grades and yet 2-3 weeks before the end of the semester they made him withdraw. They said it was because he couldn't complete clinicals, but he would have only missed two or three. They could have made other arrangements for him....in my opinion, lab work etc...(as they've done for people before) especially since there are plenty others who missed class all the time for no good reason. :nono: Now he will have to re-do the entire semester and possibly wait a year to get back in...Sigh! To make things worsehe quit his job of many years to enter nursing school, so his wife was the one bringing home the bacon and now he's sitting on borrowed time just waiting. Arg...drives me mad. :angryfire

As unfair as this seems, it is the policy in most programs. You just cannot afford to miss any clinicals. Lab & clinical experience are just not the same. In my school, you can miss one clinical, but you better do an excellent job in all the rest or you just might fail. You are completely out of luck if you miss 2 clinicals in a term. There is no way to pass that part of the course & if you fail either class work, clinical, or lab, you repeat all three.

Dixie

dansamy

Specializes in Going to Peds!.

I had 2 bad semesters. I made it through ok. It might not be easy to go to another program, but it's possible.

S.T.A.C.E.Y, LPN

Specializes in Emergency.

If the school does not want to pass you forward b/c they feel that your failure of this course was justified, instead of asking for them to feel sorry for you, maybe try asking for a repeat to prove yourself. If you inform them that due to a medical illness during that semester, and additional family medical issues, you were not able to focus on that class as much as you believe you really needed to. They may be ok with dropping you back a semester or a year to allow you to repeat the course, and that would be far better than not continuing on at all. I don't think you'll be successful in your appeals if you try to convince them to pass someone forward that they do not feel has met the standard.

Best of luck to you...

EMAILRN

Specializes in Geriatrics.

count your blessing nursing sucks

Here's my story....

I found out my Mom had cancer this past summer, she lived 3.5 hours away (one way), but I went every week, to every doctor appointment, and stayed with her throughout her surgery. During radiation, I went on Tuesday evenings, and stayed till Friday evenings, came home and worked Saturday and Sundays, school all day Monday, and Tuesday, after Community clinical, it started all over again.

In November, Mom became very ill with what we found out was HHNK (extrmemly high blood sugar), and was in the hospital for a week. During that time, we moved her in with us, and brought her home when she was released.

As far as school goes, grades dropped, thought not extrmemely, but we had to write a "policy paper" worth 25% of our grade.

I failed that paper miserably. Asked if there was anything else I could do, was told no, requested that the dean of the program (also the instructor of the class) look over the paper again, as we were told we used no local sources, (which we did, but I won't go into details over that one).

Anyway, to make a long story short, I failed my nursing program by 2 points with one semester to go.

I went after the first of the year to a CC college nearby, and was told that I just made it to take the last TEAS test to assess whether I could be accepted into the very last accelerated program for ASN that this school was offering. I took the test on Thursday, and was notified Friday that I had been accepted!

So, I may not graduate this May and I may not have my BSN when I am finished, but I WILL graduate in December and I will have my ASN...

I am thankful.

Keep trying, and attempt other avenues. One door will open as another one closes. Hang in there and let us know how things go for you, ok?

nursesaideBen

Specializes in Medical Telemetry, LTC,AlF, Skilled care.

count your blessing nursing sucks

Great way to contribute and offer support....

Anyway try not to beat yourself up or let yourself feel depressed, as the others have stated you can reapply for next semester. We can't be at our best all the time you WILL get through this :)

count your blessing nursing sucks

I DONT know you but I have a very good feeling you are one of the people that give nursing a bad name! If you just feel the nerve to BASH nursing then you should probably go somewhere else because there is A LOT of people who love nursing & cant wait to be able to sit for their boards so they can be nurses! It just kills me that there is sooo many nurses out there like YOU & it is tooooo bad your spot was wasted & couldnt of gone to someone else that really wanted to be a nurse:madface: :madface: :madface:

Sorry about the rant!!!

My school has the same policy also if you fail 2 classes you are out of the program. We have been told that there is NO missing clinicals and to not even try it. I understand the policy but I understand that you were dealt a bad deck of cards. Try to apply next session & you probably have a great chance to get in...you sound like a really good student!

GOOD LUCK!!!!

jill48, ASN, RN

Specializes in Med/Surg, Geri, Ortho, Telemetry, Psych.

I was kicked out of nursing school after I got a D in nutrition. I felt like the biggest loser in the world. I was in a daze of disbelief the entire ride home and I lived an hour away from the community college I attended. I was so embarassed. Telling my family was hard, I felt like such a failure. But I went back the next year and tried harder (not that I wasn't already trying hard), and made it. Now, eleven years later, no one would ever know it happened if I didn't tell them. It sucks now, but it will be ok. Don't give up. I'm glad I didn't. :smokin:

As unfair as this seems, it is the policy in most programs. You just cannot afford to miss any clinicals. Lab & clinical experience are just not the same.

it may be the policy but it is not recommended from a legal standpoint. This is per an article in the May 2003 Journal of Nursing Education that studied grade appeals. "Faculty should not decrease a student's grade if some other measure will achieve the objective for which the teacher is striving. For example, if a student is absent from a clinical experience, his or her grade should not be reduced if the absence is legitimate and can be made up."

beachbum3

Specializes in Telemetry.

it may be the policy but it is not recommended from a legal standpoint. This is per an article in the May 2003 Journal of Nursing Education that studied grade appeals. "Faculty should not decrease a student's grade if some other measure will achieve the objective for which the teacher is striving. For example, if a student is absent from a clinical experience, his or her grade should not be reduced if the absence is legitimate and can be made up."

I think clinical hours are something that are state mandated. You have to complete a certain amount of hours in a clinical setting.

At my school you can miss clinical but you have to make up the day. And good luck doing that because each seat in all the clinical sections is already filled, so there is no room to go on another day. If you can't make up the day, you fail clinical, thus failing the semester. You'd have to reapply and reenter the next year.

gerry79

Specializes in ED, Cardiac Medicine, Retail Health.

Policies are not set in stone. I was deployed by the military and missed the first 5 weeks of the last semester this past July and was allowed to continue and graduate. I made up the clinicals and did not miss an exam. But there was another classmate dismissed for missing a couple of clinicals.

Policies are not set in stone. I was deployed by the military and missed the first 5 weeks of the last semester this past July and was allowed to continue and graduate. I made up the clinicals and did not miss an exam. But there was another classmate dismissed for missing a couple of clinicals.

I graduated many years ago & we had several people dismissed/terminated from school due to failing 2 classes. You were only allowed to miss one clinical & of course had to make it up.

For military, they were allowed to miss due to deployment & of course resume their classes once they arrived back home. Written in the handbook that the school had to save their slot. Glad to see you were able to graduate.

Please do not get discouraged!!! I started a nursing program (hospital diploma based) in 2001..after getting pre req's done for 2 years......and had 3 semesters done out of 5.....1st year the summer of advanced med surg (3rd semester) plus pharmacology......I was failed on the very day we had our final evaluations from our clinical instructor......because this one instructor just hated me from the get go......and no I am not "whining" because I have to pass the buck onto someone else because I did bad...I had phenomenal reviews from every single instructor until this one I had, she made my clinicals a living nightmare every week.....I literally had panic attacks & anxiety attacks because of her bs........and had chest pains and migraines...all from stress from her nonsense......only I never had the guts to speak up...even the instructors I had prior to her all told me they wish they could do something but they have to work with her every day..so that tells me they knew already.........she apparently would pick out one student each semester that she had in clinicals..(I am not the 1st) and do this to them........ let's put it this way... at pre or post conference 1/2 of the students in my group would get up to leave the room because of how ridiculous this instructor would be to me....very degrading, condescending and trying to talk to me in a very demeaning manner....like saying my name after every few things she would explain.............to the point one student actually said to her why she always leaves is because of how she treats me...and the instructor would say ''excuse me...xxxx" , she would even stare me down in the cafeteria if we were in there at the same time......and others saw it too...so it wasn't me. But she would be overly nice to me if another instructor was in the room at the same time so they couldn't witness her crap......... also, one of my daughters nurses (who is a school nurse) had a kid at her school whose mother had her 2 years ago at the same nursing school & who went through the exact same thing........(and she never went back to school again because of it)... I ended up just reapplying to a whole other school....got into a community college which I just graduated with my ADN from with fantastic reviews from every single instructor I had there.... .......so it took me 7 years because of that one horrid person...........my former instructors all told me do not give up my dreams because of one bad apple.............and I didn't! I am even going onto getting my BSN.....heck the running joke is to get my MSN & go get a job teaching at the very school that woman is still teaching at.........just to see her expression! I may even go to visit my old instructors from there just to rub her ugly face in it anyway...........and you know why? Because I was not giving up my dream for anyone......no way :nono: because she would of won......and h e double hockey sticks was going to freeze over before I let anyone take away my dreams...........so sorry my story was sooooooo long but do not give up!!! Even if it means starting from the beginning all over again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh ya....p.s. a nurse who I still am friends with today from that clinical group there that graduated from there when I was supposed to ...actually told her in the final semester 3 years ago, that I was coming back to school there just to mess with her..and told me her face was worth a million bucks just seeing her expression alone...she said her jaw must of hit the floor so hard it broke..lol...she actually called me right after she told her to tell me about it....rotflmao......oh that was great!!!!!! LOL!

I find it appalling and very disappointing that schools that profess are this rigid, and may I say "uncaring" ? My, my, I wonder what would Jean Watson say?

To "care", you must first be minimally competent.

I know how you feel - 6 months ago or so, I also was dismissed and my appeal was denied....

I applied and was accepted at another school nearby and am waiting to hear if I got into their nursing program to...start over (minus of course my general education credits...) - I had 7 classes to go (basically research and technical ones - no clinical's left).

Just wanted you to know that you are not alone, and my suggestion is if you really love nursing then just apply and start over, its probably the easiest way to go (and I use easy loosely - because it really hurts everyday - I too was dismissed on unfair circumstances - family and personal health problems...).

Good Luck, I know how hard this is and what you must be feeling like!

Best Wishes!!:up:

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